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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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dieter

Ok, I was reading the patent again and then I realized: the inductors are not eighter SNNS or SNSN, they are both, alternating! There is no other possible interpretation. Carefully watch the following diagram and be aware of the flux always tries to flow in a circle using the easiest path:

NRamaswami

I'm sorry. I made a mistake.

In an induction generator, if the RPM rotor is increased by supplying mechanical energy to increase the RPM in excess of the frequency of exciting current, then the electricity produced.

So essentially it is only in the primary of the transformer we must increse the frequency to get a higher output. I think the Tesla coil does exactly that but it goes to a very high level of mega hertz level and uses air core, to create sparks as it uses sparks in the input. If the input frequency is increased from 50 Hz to 400 Hz or 30000 Hz  or so we should see a considerable increase in the output of secondary..Instead of typing as primary I typed as secondary. It is only the rotor rpm that is increased to generate electrical output. I think it depends on the core material used to increase the frequency as we desire.

My mistake. My apologies.

I think if we increase the frequency of primary of transformers to higher levels by using materials that can respond to higher frequencies the output should be higher. The output current then will have to be rectified to dc and then again inverted to AC at 50 Hz..I think this is already used in some inverters. Will need to check.


Farmhand

Quote from: dieter on February 27, 2014, 07:48:14 PM
Ok, I was reading the patent again and then I realized: the inductors are not eighter SNNS or SNSN, they are both, alternating! There is no other possible interpretation. Carefully watch the following diagram and be aware of the flux always tries to flow in a circle using the easiest path:

Dieter your drawing is correct except there is a north and south electromagnet and the zero volt line is at the bottom of the graph and the south magnet wave needs to be inverted

It would seem to me that the north and south electromagnets are 90 degrees out of phase, the waves are sinusoidal but the north wave is above zero and the south wave is below zero. The south magnets can be made south by either connecting the wires opposite to the north magnets or winding the coils the opposite way, I prefer to keep all coils wound the same and connect them opposite.

Figuera says as one current is rising the other is falling so that means the two are 90 degrees out of phase. The rising current in the south magnet makes the wave go down not up, even though the current is rising it is causing a negative magnetic pole at the induced coils meeting edge. So the wave is south going. Both waves are sinusoidal but one is above zero volt line determined by the battery negative and the other is below that same line.

Cheers

marathonman

Like i stated in my previous post picture that i made with paint says it all, just what Figueras said. i will stick with what i have until my test build is complete and i have run test. :) only need a few more pieces of Iron....Happy Figuering all!

NRamaswami

The confusion is only due to a simple issue. This was written in spanish language at a different era.  When customs and language requirements were different. This was in addition in legalese of Spanish Patent Law at that time. Now it is translated to English by Hanon.  We are trying to understand it. Each one interprets it differently and each one carries out experiments at a smaller scale to attain the results. Experiments to replicate the patent are not done as exactly stated in the patent. Even if we think we are doing exactly what he did, every one comes with different schmes and different waves at different days and times. This is because our methods of learning are different and our methods of thinking are different. When I studied maths we had to have all tables by heart. Today calculators and computers and spreadsheets are used and none knows or follows or needs the old methods. This patent is based on the old methods and old thinking used 100 years back in Spain. This is what creates the problem.

I'm sure the solution would be found by one or more of the members of the community. It may well be just sitting before our nose. Or we might have forgotten some thing that we ourselves did some months back..And then may remember that again. saving considerable time.

Let us wait and see.