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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Doug1

How about a little bit of fried common sense. In reverse it should produce DC from mains ac using only coils and cores. Since the resisters on the control unit produce fluctuating DC the absents of the control unit will yield straight unadulterated DC from the inducers when ac mains is fed into the induced output coil. Then you know you are proportioning your components correctly when you have the dc output you want to work with compared to ac output when you turn it around to work off the batteries to start it. Then you can tackle the method of making it do the impossible.
Happy hunting.
   

dieter

Marathonman


When you pump a  pure dc pulse into a coil, the collapsing field between the pulses will cause a polarity change in the back emf, you will always have to deal with ac. If you block it with a diode, it will get hot and waste energy. Where did you read Figueras had AC Generators?


In your drawng there the coils are facing two diffrent poles, neutralizing eachother. When you vary the voltages, you may rescue some of the energy, but not much.


In a generator there is indeed a similar setup, the inductor coil ends face the inducted coil ends and the inducted ones will move along continously. So sometimes they are facing s to n completely, or n to n, this is the peak in the output. Any constellation in between, like your 50:50 overlapping does reduce the inductive coupling significantly. In your setup, the energy output will be higher if you disconnect every 2nd primary.


Then the cores  don't face eachother, but get close only at the edges, this is not how induction works.


Seriously guys, you seem to love to theorize and completely ignore the fact that there's an existing, working prototype that was presented to you including all data.  You tell me my practical device is wrong and your theory is right. Is that openminded? No it's absurd.


Doug1


NRamaswami

Hi Dieter:

Today is Sunday and my boys will come for work only tomorrow. I will check the ladder configuration with the secondary  facing two like poles. as indicated in your experiment. I do not have a ferrite core which is very efficient and used in high frequency experiments but any way I'm going to use the mains AC and so Let me check that. While you have given small currents mine are all mains currents and so we can see what is the power output that comes.

The ladder configuration is the one that I felt could work very well but placed all of them kind of NS-NS-NS-NS in a square to create a single module. Possibly the 90 degree difference does some thing  to cancel out the magnetism. When they rods are all straight up there is magnetism and when the rods are squared and connected at both ends the magnetism disappears. I will check by chaning the winding pattern. Let us see. I can confirm that as voltages go up output goes up dramatically. I will sure test what you have done.

If we are able to make a device that has greater output than input, a part of the output can power the source of the feeding current and that will result in self sustaining operation and so the only question is to make a device with a greater output than the input.  I believe that this device has great potential and let us wait and see.

Doug1

 While one magnet gets powered up the opposite is powering down.If the magnets face south against south and one field is pushing the other rather then simply combining into a single field of greater or lessor strength the collapsing field wound with a coil must go somewhere.It would be nice if it went into the field winding of the coil being powered up wouldnt it but to do that it would need a force to slap against it  to get to go where I want it to back into the windings with enough potential to over come the potential feeding the upswing of the other inducer coil. Then for each cycle you would use less and less of the source up to it being totally saturated. Then you only need enough difference to wiggle the current instead of the magnetic domains ,which by my estimation domains have much greater mass and would require significant work to move full circle N S N S. But then what happens to a unloaded trafo when it is fully magnetized? Noth'n It uses very little power to maintain the field.What ever amount is needed to produce magnetic movement of the field which is fully saturated in the trafo.Actually I dont believe that is what is really happening in a trafo but for now I will digress. Is the orientation of the poles of any importance to the trafo when it is idle? Noooo  and when a load is permitted it now has a bigger piece of real estate for the current to fill by transformation or translation or both. Current is turned into magnetisim in the trafo and then turned back to current in the opposite side winding so the current can reach the load and be turned back into magnetisism. What if I do not want to use the current from the source, just the motive force to be used in a closed system separate from the source which will be my load without transforming. That's why the three coils are completely separate.  The coils of the same orientation will become one field.