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Confirmation of OU devices and claims

Started by tinman, November 10, 2017, 10:53:19 AM

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AlienGrey

Quote from: gyulasun on July 02, 2019, 08:30:49 AM
Hi AG,
You would need to clarify what you are not sure in as being true?  Did you mean the split resonance occuring ? Something else?

Anyway, I do not rule out the possible usefulness of split resonance between mutually coupled LC circuits, all I meant was that the receiver coils in this setup are said to be tuned to the same frequency, no offtuning are allowed, otherwise energy transfer suffers.

Gyula
WITH OUT PREJUDICE
hI Gyula, i'm not sure if that is a 'trade name or not' I think we are really talking about radiated magnetic resonance in an impulse form in reality here but since Mr Friedrich hasn't shown any circuits or scope shots that produce any real 'power' from his negative magnetic impulsing technique which is what both Mr Friedrich and John badini 'appear' as far as i know been promoting here unless i might be mistaken by mr friedrich's confusing statements on this thread because if he could prove some worth of power produced and i mean at least over 100 watts I could well be persuaded to buy a device at a reasonable competitive price of course. Oh and with out the magna-carta (style) inquisition questionnaire Mr Friedrich appears to address me with, would be nice.

Does that answer your question ?
AG

rickfriedrich

AG,
I can see here that English is not your native tongue. So now I realize that some of the translation is not getting through to us here. I think it goes both ways in you also not understanding what some of us have written.

As for Don, do you know anything about Don making a living? Don was retired from many years as a scientist. In retirement he helped out his local school and taught high school science. I guess that is what you mean by making a living out of teaching kids what they wanted to see??? Everything else he did in free energy research was after that where he didn't need an income. He was an old man and was tinkering around like many of you guys. He didn't sell to the public. He made copies of his book and CD which wasn't worth the time he spent on doing that. So your claim is rejected. People made deals with him, but you no nothing of those deals as they were private.
Yes he showed you what he wanted you see, and so does everyone showing anything. There was no living made out of that, but it was to help people. Thousands of people all around the world have benefitted from that and never paid him anything.

Now maybe your comments here have been lost in translation again and you are saying something positive about Don. It doesn't appear that way with the words as written. So in that case we just can't understand you AG. Like what do you mean by: "What i'm saying is use that this Tesla device!"??? This translation into English doesn't say anything. Do you mean use this Tesla device? Seems obvious from the next phrase. But what does "cut out the 'show time'" not nice comments refer to? Who are you referring to?

Quote from: AlienGrey on July 02, 2019, 07:38:34 AM
Watch this it's not just induction. this is something else it's technique some have.

Don Smith was a sow man and exhibitor Meaning
He showed you what he wanted you to see, and made a living out of it.

What i'm saying is use that this Tesla device! produce it for your self!
but please cut out the 'show time' BS, it's not nice!

rickfriedrich

You guys may joke and say these words in the hope that people reading will just believe you, but I think most will realize your games. You both lie about these things here when you say such things. I have shown many such things over the years and even recently. I have shown many videos and meter readings in video and pictures, but that would never satisfy you guys anyway. I have played those games with people like you for years and in the end they just said what I have been saying all along, you can't prove anything over the internet. Yet they will readily believe a disprove claim. Double standard people! This becomes a deception to everyone. You can't have it both ways.
Again, you refuse to admit that all we can do here is prove things to ourselves in the real world. Your game is up disinfo people. I have only set out to help people in the real world. I am not trying to get people to believe my claims but merely help them to prove things to themselves. They may prove the same things I claim but they may experience more (as many have).
Now I have shown such things, more importantly, in the real world with real people who have real names and faces and live real lives. What do we know about any of you in the real world? How many people are paid to troll these mostly useless forums to spread disinfo and unscientific practices and rumors?
How have I not shown any circuits? The last 2 weeks has been all about the basic series and parallel tank circuits. If you need me to draw that out, as others already have, then where have you been AG? Certainly not in this discussion then. Other circuits have been merely adding a gate driver between the tank and the frequency generator. Just a fast gate driver with two caps across the positive and negative terminals according to the datasheet. Further discussion has been the SSG kind of circuits for motors. And I actually posted the detailed schematic the other day. So this is a lie AG. If you go back to the Selfish Circuits or Loving Paths video that has been so often referenced in this discussion you will see scope shots and meters, and you will find many more videos in that series and since then on my youtube channel. You are trying to bait me into trying to prove a claim over the internet. I have shown what you say I haven't so this is deliberately false. So once again, people can see who you are here and what you are trying to do. This almost seems bipolar to me, as you jump around back in forth in this sort of thing. I guess it works to confuse some people. Again, this is what a troll does, in provoking a reaction to get more information.
I have been anything but confusing. I have taken the time to clearly articulate each point and clarify misunderstandings and answer every question even when the question had been answered several times. You evidently just don't read what I have shared and then act like I never wrote or shared something. Just go back a day or two and look at the same schematic posted twice. Maybe you just were out to lunch. laughing out loud!
Well, where were you when I was giving rides in my boat? That was a little more than 100W. It took 350A @ 132V to move that boat 7mph with the forklift motor. And only 50A @ 24 to move it 5mph with my motor. I ran that for three years by merely rotating the batteries back and forth. Nothing advanced, nothing hidden. People could hook of the meters and see everything. Also lawnmowers, other boats, fans, generators, cars, etc. Oh, but that was in the real world. I didn't try to make some animation in the cyberworld here.
I am not interested in selling you something. I was trying to help you. But I don't even think that you are as doubtful as you come across. Or G. You guys know the truth of some of this already. So what is the real deal with you guys? Just fishing for more information by provocation? I've seen that for years. Just like that link you sent the other day about the fan where the guy knew exactly what he was doing and that the fan did not produce the results that he faked. So you guys in word disregard everything I say and act like you assume that it is not real. But I'm not convinced of the act, and probably others are not. So I guess my goal here is more than just to help people experience free energy independence for themselves, but in doing that I have to expose you guys and all your fallacies and diversions. Maybe this is all just fun and games. Maybe someone pays you to do that. We cannot be sure of anything here in fantasy land.

You actually been the inquisitor in all this AG. When I pointed out when you denied mentioning grounding in regards to A.King and I gave the exact details you just replied with "No Comment." So my point there stands. You were the inquisitor fabricating stories and insulting A.King for no reason. Now you continue to do this to me as you have from the beginning. I don't care or take it personally, but I want everyone to see exactly what his happening here. These kinds of disinfo tactics have worked for years on the groups to keep people from benefiting in this research because what you people are doing here is not research. It is merely attempts to try and disprove any OU claims while trying to suck out information from the claimants. It actually works so long as people like me are not exposing it.

WITH MUCH PREJUDICE AG says:
Quote from: AlienGrey on July 02, 2019, 09:18:41 AM
hI Gyula, i'm not sure if that is a 'trade name or not' I think we are really talking about radiated magnetic resonance in an impulse form in reality here but since Mr Friedrich hasn't shown any circuits or scope shots that produce any real 'power' from his negative magnetic impulsing technique which is what both Mr Friedrich and John badini 'appear' as far as i know been promoting here unless i might be mistaken by mr friedrich's confusing statements on this thread because if he could prove some worth of power produced and i mean at least over 100 watts I could well be persuaded to buy a device at a reasonable competitive price of course. Oh and with out the magna-carta (style) inquisition questionnaire Mr Friedrich appears to address me with, would be nice.

Does that answer your question ?
AG

rickfriedrich

G, claims go both ways Mr. Double standard  8)  ;) You can't even prove to us that you don't believe this. All such talk is meaningless. Obviously the point of these forums is to prove things out. But you just keep assuming that prove can be justified over the internet when it is only proof to the individual in the real world that can happen. For all your 'expert' persona you demonstrate the most unscientific practices to everyone. You continuously assume that something has been proven here and there by some claim that you arbitrarily believe, well not arbitrarily but that supports your bias. But when another claim is shared you inconsistently disbelieve it and even mock it as you do here.
Sympathetic resonance is a common idea, especially in music, but also in this research. But just start with the piano as I mentioned. It is very easy to prove to yourself if you have any interest in doing anything in the real world. You already know this so this is just a game. Sound is no different than what we are doing so it is more than likely that this can happen here. It would be more appropriate to mock the disbelief of sympathetic resonance in this research.
Not one of your words "can be proved via the web". You refused to even tell us what you believe or what you meant by that one line that toyed with people that you may be open to OU. So far you have done nothing but try to explain things by mainstream basic theory. And that would be fine if you didn't manifestly contradict yourself and play all these games with these people.
So only as anyone uses a double standard in these ways, that is acting like everyone ought to believe some claims while then putting the onus on other people making claims, then I will respond and expose this fallacy. That includes people doing that with making OU claims while disbelieving counter claims. There is no bias here. What you guys are doing is not science. It is CONFIRMATION BIAS. I expose this in the next video. The confirmation bias has been repeatedly exposed and is firmly settled with everyone. So these manifest examples of it are deliberate disinfo.
Again, there is nothing wrong with taking Itsu's claims in words and pictures as something to personally consider, but to assume that you have some correct understand of what he was doing under the circumstances is mere assumption. Notice that many such claims are instantly believed with out followup questions to even try to prevent mistaken notions. But the moment something is shown that seems out of place we have hesitation. This proves confirmation bias, because why wouldn't you equally question everything? Remember the guy that joked after my first post here and said, what about the wires under the table. So what about that? You can never know if someone is boosting their claims or deliberately making something fail in the same way. So this has an appearance of confirmation for or against, but as we see all the games you guys play here and all over these forums we have a high level of probability that people are intent on disproving any claims at any cost. It is probably equal in just as many people faking OU claims as those trying to fake their disproof of real OU systems. Both examples destroy people's faith, waste money and time. So round and round you all go in your confirmation bias and it is all be entertainment. But you see, there are many good souls watching and learning from all of this. They will not bother to write anything, or maybe say something once as some have. They are not only learning the truth for their own benefit but also they learn about these kinds of disinfo games and how to detect them. And it is vastly important to understand what is going on here...

Quote from: gyulasun on July 02, 2019, 04:28:19 AM
Claims like 'sympathetic resonance' or 'phase conjugate mirroring' ought to be proved to bring extra output energy in this TX-RX resonant LC circuits discussed here.  Of course, nothing can be proved via the web or by videos...  ::)
Gyula

popolibero


Hi Rick,


thanks for the info, I get it. :)

Mario

Quote from: rickfriedrich on July 01, 2019, 12:46:20 PM
Yes that subject of what is happening in the battery is too involved to get into on the forums (and it requires the use of words and models that I am undecided in at this time). As for the idea, you are converting the negative to positive through a capacitor. So you can see the way we do it with the cap pulser before the battery, and you can think that through and do something similar on the front end. This would be like using various RC or even LC filters like you find with bandpass bypass, etc. I don't usually do that and having posted any schematics myself so you are on your own.

The idea to understand, as has been recently brought up here, is the DSE or Don Smith Effect. The idea is that the capacitor is a blocking device. More importantly it allows for replicating the energy on the front side on the back side. So the OU demonstration Don gave, that most people completely missed, was that he had double the arcing from the input when you consider the regular arcing to the one side of the plate was about 1" and then when he added a ground terminal an inch away from the other side plate it arced another 1" and effectively doubled or duplicated the energy. Now the arc was a real load on both sides. This is an essential process with Don Smith systems.

The point here is that the capacitor replicates the energy on the output side, and this case the replication becomes positive energy and results in current flow under the circumstances. So once you understand this you can build the appropriate filter(s) so do the same on the front end. The same is true with doing this third stage process to power loads with positive energy.