Ok
Why do you (all) use LED's with maybe "strange circuitry" inside destroying "normal" results?
Distorting your logical thinking.
For instance that strange ripple. Can't be overtones from the input?
I'm always using resistors .
Am I an odd person in this regards?

LED's  Dc, Ac?? 12V with "knees" at <4.8volt???

Regards Arne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4529&v=EcFWuchjaqk
The most stunning demonstration of Benitez's free energy patent anywhere on the web EVER!  With scope shots for you scope guys.


1 hour 15 minutes in.  Then you can go back and find out the circuit diagram and compare it to Ed Gray's system (which is also analysed) and of course Bedini.(lol)


G  I hear you.  Trouble is my experiment is also using the DSE and I have to have a neon bulb with resistor over one of the caps to stop from getting shocked by mains voltage. The transients are too high for me to risk the scope. (I must get a 1000 x probe).
I'll have a detailed look at your post tomorrow  and figure something out.

Thanks Itsu. Have a great day.

Hoppy:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1hNQsr9YnkIjFkMAc3Npw


1 hour 45 minutes in ...


Is this the same circuit you were using?  ie Gabriel Kron's negative resistor schematic (more or less ie with variations). So the battery voltage across a load ie a bulb is zero - yet the bulb still lights??

Quote from: a.king21 on July 08, 2019, 12:00:03 AM
Hoppy:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1hNQsr9YnkIjFkMAc3Npw


1 hour 45 minutes in ...


Is this the same circuit you were using?  ie Gabriel Kron's negative resistor schematic (more or less ie with variations). So the battery voltage across a load ie a bulb is zero - yet the bulb still lights??

Very similar but there has to be voltage across the bulb to light. How is it being measured?