Quote from: Sergh on May 13, 2021, 06:47:21 AM
It is not necessary to have a diode as electronic part for AC rectification. Under certain conditions, the contacts of the cell are capable of  of self- rectifying:
-  cell contacts are made of different metals or metals with different oxide film thicknesses. Some metal oxides, not just aluminum, are capable of rectifying alternating current.
-  even two electrodes with different surface areas conduct alternating current to the electrolyte differently, e.g. needle and rectangle, fine wire and tube

https://simplifier.neocities.org/rectifier.html

http://no3m.net/2016/02/electrolytic-rectifiers/

sometimes electronic circuits are not only constitued to make function "capable" but also long(er)-time working !
Diode and its filtering function !

Quote from: kolbacict on May 13, 2021, 03:26:25 AM
Well, I later came up with a cell with an adjustable distance between parallel stainless steel electrodes. Made from a disposable syringe. The distance can be reduced until it touches.
Did not help. Only boiled water there. 
But I want to say, although according to Meyer, the gas output has not turned out so far, only according to Faraday, I came up with many interesting things.
For example, would you got an electrolysis product (according to Faraday,yet) using only alternating current of low and high frequency? Removable directly from the secondary winding of the transformer.
Without using any semiconductor or lamp diode. And I have achieved this.

Hi Kolbacit,


As you found out without the blocking diode all that will happen is the water will heat up as you are switching the polarity on the plates back and forth which will cause the water molecules to rub together and create molecular friction. I don't know who this Sergh person is but please don't listen to that advice. The blocking diode must have a high switching speed and the voltage handling capability to survive what we will be throwing at it. A normal diode will not work out all that well as it's switching speed is just too slow. I blew out quite a few diodes before I found some that can take the abuse this technology will put them through.


Everything that I posted must be mimicked as even the waveform must start off with a negative pulse as shown. If it starts off with a positive pulse then the VIC circuit isn't wired up correctly. In Meyer's dot diagram all the dots are positive. This is very important as the primary coil must be wired correctly also to the power supply with the correct polarity. I'm not sure if you took the time to read the pdf file I posted where I go over the actual science behind this technology but what Meyer did is to mimic a thunder storm. The blocking diode is there to ensure there is only one polarity on the plates of the water capacitor. This is what allows us to get at the electrons of the atoms that make up the water molecules and a waveform like I showed will not heat up the water bath as the sum of the energy going through the water capacitor is zero or in reality near zero as I was only able to get the positive and negative to within 20 volts of being equal with the positive voltage 20 volts higher than the negative voltage. Using a analog micro amp meter I measured the amperage flowing through the capacitor to be only 0.6 mA which isn't enough to heat up the water bath.


But in the dot diagram those dots also represent the start of the winding on the bobbin form and as shown they are wired in such a way that the start of the windings go into the end of the of the other coils. Now I went through a lot of testing with the way these transformers can be wired up wiring them up in every way possible until I got the waveform to look correct. At first I used the wrong type of diode which messed up my first attempts to wire these things up correctly but once I got the right type of diode I redid all of the test on how to go about wiring up these transformers to the power supply and the water fuel capacitor and to each coil as it must be wired correctly and I had to cut out all of the BS found on in the many forums I was in at that time. All coils must share the same core or it will not work. The reasons for this I'll leave to all of you to figure out on your own through proper testing and good observations. When I was doing this and learning I left nothing to chance and tested all ways to wire up the VIC circuit. Only two worked but only one gave a negative start to the waveform. In this balance is the key for as stated the positive and negative voltages must be as close to equal as you can get them as that is the primary source of amp restriction.


If you take the time to read Meyer's technical brief and not just look at the pictures you will learn that Meyer always had a positive and negative voltage going to his exciter arrays. In the pictures he'd show just one half of what was being done most of the time but this is allowable in patent law just as long as the written words tell the truth. Most come into this technology thinking it is simple and are lazy so they only take the time to look at the photos and never read the words in the paragraph parts of the technical brief. Those that separated the chokes from the pulsing core were just idiots as they went and made changings to a technology they didn't fully understand and ran with it getting many others to follow their work. But they have all thrown in the towel now leaving me one of the last ones left standing still working on this technology.


This video explains why I use Schottky diodes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXEyCf1P0UU&ab_channel=Afrotechmods


In time I know I will be successful as I have earned it. I went over and beyond in my efforts to get at the science behind this technology as I knew with understanding I could make changes to what Meyer did and yes I have made some changes but with the full understanding of this technology and not just guessing. I know what I am doing and at the moment only need to gain the funds needed to push this technology to the marketplace. These transformers must be built correctly for if they are too weak to power the load you will be placing on them it's not going to work. You have to pick the correct wire sizes, turn counts, turn ratios, and a whole lot more. This was the hardest part of this technology to figure out as it took a lot of money with my trial and error testing to get to where I could reasonably build them correctly and as seen I too will still make some costly mistakes from time to time but I just push on and never throw in the towel. Now only time is what it will require for this technology to be put on the marketplace as sooner or later I will have enough funds to buy the machines I need to finish what I started.


Take care all,
Edward

QuoteI don't know who this Sergh person is

As far as I understand, you are located territorially, in the same place as me.
He, in general, is not a stupid person, and about his remarks above, rectifying alternating current on an aluminum electrode, I agree.

QuoteThis video explains why I use Schottky diodes:

Yes, but I don't know high voltage Schottky diodes ...
But I figured out where the beggar can get a high-voltage fast diode with a large pulse current.
You just need to take a magnetron from a microwave oven and remove the ring magnets from it.

Quote from: kolbacict on May 13, 2021, 12:39:02 PM
As far as I understand, you are located territorially, in the same place as me.
He, in general, is not a stupid person, and about his remarks above, rectifying alternating current on an aluminum electrode, I agree.Yes, but I don't know high voltage Schottky diodes ...
But I figured out where the beggar can get a high-voltage fast diode with a large pulse current.
You just need to take a magnetron from a microwave oven and remove the ring magnets from it.

Since  you agree with his not making use of the blocking diode then trust me you are in the wrong thread as departure from that part of Meyer's technology is to not be doing what Meyer did at all. You either never ran a search for high voltage Schottky diodes or are just messing with me: [size=78%]https://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Discrete-Semiconductors/Diodes-Rectifiers/Schottky-Diodes-Rectifiers/_/N-ax1mjZ1yzvvqx?P=1z0z63xZ1yuo617[/size] as there are a lot of them and they even go much higher than this but for my use I found that these work fine as I have never blown one of these up before.


From the looks of it in the way you are trying to solve this technology you might as well quit as failure to do fairly exactly what I am doing will result in failure. You must resin seal the bobbins, soldier the connections correct for high voltage, use high voltage rated wire, have the coating that goes on the wires to be rated for use with high voltage, and then you must wire everything up correctly and use a pulsing circuit that will give the correct waveform you are seeking which I have shown many times in this thread along with why the waveforms must look that way. I'm sorry if things get expensive as those are just some of the hurdles we have to jump over if we are to get this technology up and running correctly.


Remember I have been at this since March of 2006 making use of the scientific method which is a trial and error method by way of eliminating all the wrong ways until the truth is revealed. I didn't have my first real breakthrough until 2012 and since then I have just been learning more and more about this technology as it goes much further than to just be used to run engines with nothing be water in their tanks for fuel. I will do my best to get this technology into the marketplace and attempt to keep the cost for the technology low so that those that need it the most can afford to purchase it. At this point I really don't expect many to be coming out with this technology as I've only found less than a handful that understand enough about the technology to make it work. But still so much work needs to be done as the units I will be making need to be tough and tested thoroughly so that they last at least 10 years without any problems. So the electrical components I choose must go the distance for this technology to be truly viable as well as the way everything is built as it must be built to last.


Like I stated I will try and do my best as the world truly needs this technology right now but they don't need something that will break after a months use.


Take care,
Edward

Quote from: h20power on May 13, 2021, 03:59:42 PM
high voltage Schottky diodes

but if I read Stanley Meyer's original patent US5149407, Page 19 (6), Line 10:
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/d0/de/ef/9a5c1da561dabd/US5149407.pdf
Stanley Meyer patents this type of diode :
1N1198
"Power Rectifier for general purpose power supply application" 600 V 18 A
https://datasheetspdf.com/pdf-file/532202/AdvancedSemiconductor/1N1198/1
This is ordinary old  rectifier diode.