Quote from: sm0ky2 on October 26, 2022, 02:06:56 PM
2) a "scientist" would be well educated in this area.
It is trivial to split water by ionization
However this generally uses significantly more energy (electrical, chemical, or nuclear) than electrolysis.

In general, pure water decomposes into ions in an insignificant amount, which is determined by the dissociation constant 10 ^ -7 not from the potentials on the electrodes, even without any electrodes at all. Water dissociates into ions as a result of the thermal energy of the movement of molecules.

Hello Everyone,


Interesting reading from you sm0ky2. Yes, I must figure out the efficiency of all of this but for that I must wait until I am able to wind these transformers without the wire snapping on me due to kinks in the wire for not having any wire tensioners. Once I am able to wind these transformers properly I can move to the next step. The number to beat right now is 98% efficient by the company Hysata with their capillary setup electrolyzer. Seeing that I appear to be the only one working on this technology right now that knows what they are doing once I have the transformer built I feel I should be able to beat those numbers put out by Hysata and for now I will be the only one as no one else is actively working on this technology right now other than myself as far as I can tell.


Here's the part most people don't understand. The problem has always been the bubbles sticking to the plates as these gases are none conductive and thus they block the electricity from flowing. Hysata's solution was to use a capillary system of sorts to keep the bubbles off of the plates of the electrodes. This technology's solution is to place everything in a high potential voltage field, thus also getting around the problem of bubbles sticking to the plates as this way it doesn't matter as everything between the electrodes gets ionized be it gases, water, or even ice. Someone else in Japan came up with another solution that shook the plates rapidly to get the bubbles off of the electrodes.


Now what you are talking about with "Autoionization" is partially being ionized as that's how water goes from H3O+ and OH- back and forth to H2O again. This is not that as it's just as a plant does in that it takes away both of the electrons in the water molecules from the atoms that are responsible for holding the water molecules together. Since at STP hydrogen and oxygen are gases the only way to get them to go back together again is with a spark, pressures above 7.7 bar, or high heat conditions that will cause the gases to flash. I'm not one that gets trapped in the numbers or mixes up different situations as I know exactly what's going on.


Having seen with my own two eye's just what water looks like when it is being separated by ionization I can tell the difference between normal electrolysis and this ionization method of breaking the bonds of the water molecules. When the water is broken down by way of ionization using high potential difference voltage fields the gases come off in their monatomic state and you can visually see this in the way the gas evolution looks like as it looks as if the water is boiling. The reason it looks that way is monatomic hydrogen takes up more space that diatomic hydrogen does. I'm not sure if this is the same situation for the oxygen gas atoms but I know it is for the hydrogen gas atoms. Again that is something you can see very easily and those that witnessed Meyer's cell working talked of the water appearing to be boiling. Again boiling water doesn't look like electrolysis as without those high voltage potential difference electric fields electrolysis produces diatomic molecules.
For me personally I have known of this as far back as 2009 if I remember correctly and I even spoke about this in the interview video of Gunther and myself by John Fraser at the 2013 Global BEM. Most people don't understand what I am talking about as they have too many gaps in their learning to be able to see things clearly and/or they are just not asking the right questions or paying close attention to their experiments.


Being able to build this technology correctly on your own takes a lot of money as there many machines that need to be purchased. And, I will add if the person attempting to build this technology has no idea what they are trying to do or at the very least making use of the scientific method their experiments will most of the time be just a waste of time and money. Most people that jumped in on this technology were just copying things and not thinking things thoroughly. Without the use of the scientific method their experiments had no purpose as they couldn't learn from them because they had asked no questions before hand that needed to be answered. I kept trying to tell people to make use of the scientific method but have always been ignored by the forum members in forums like these. Most of those that move to just copy what they saw about this technology just about all have thrown in the towel now. For me I knew that I couldn't move forwards without truly understanding just what this technology was doing first so I sought to understand the science behind the technology. Most of you have no idea just how many experiments I have under my belt concerning this technology as I went about learning the underlying science behind it all.


Now it's only a matter of the time it takes for me to save up enough monies and/or be donated enough monies to purchase the last remaining things I need to complete this technology.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/87a49b22

Perhaps try an ultrasonic transducer?
The type found in 'mist' devices, toothbrushes, and jewelry cleaners
Arduino has a low cost solution as well


They require little power and may "shake" the bubbles free

Quote from: sm0ky2 on October 28, 2022, 07:13:58 AM
Perhaps try an ultrasonic transducer?
The type found in 'mist' devices, toothbrushes, and jewelry cleaners
Arduino has a low cost solution as well


They require little power and may "shake" the bubbles free

Umm, that would be a "No" as this technology gets around that problem by placing everything between the electrodes in a high voltage potential difference field. A few people working on this technology discovered that when it makes bubbles in this manor those bubbles are generated right in the center between the electrodes and not on the electrodes themselves. So, as you can see with this technology the bubbles are never generated on the electrodes to begin with thus getting around that problem of the bubbles sticking to the plates in a totally different way.
The way I see it since I have put in the work of getting at the actual science behind this technology I've earned the right to understand how everything works and those whom just went about copying things did not. You have to understand that this forum here is the last remaining forum that I am allowed to post in as all the others banned me because I willing chose to make use of the scientific method and wouldn't depart from it. My findings contradicted their beliefs about this technology and since they were paying for the forums that was something they were not willing to tolerate even if they were totally wrong about what they chose to believe about this technology.


To me these parts of my life as I went about learning just how this technology actually worked are those "Hard Knocks" Meyer spoke of that anyone working on this technology would have to go through. It's the primary reason why I don't simply share what I know about this technology as they wanted me out and now they have their wish. They had much fun and took great pleasure in banning me from their online forums and now I am forcing them to sleep in the bed that they made. Does this make me bitter towards them, I think yes, but as I stated I have earned the right to know what I know as I took the time, spent the money, and did the work of making use of the scientific method on getting at the secrets behind how this technology actually works. There is a long list of people whom you can thank for me now being this way as that school of hard knocks wasn't fun to go through.


But know I still have to wait a bit as there are a few more things I need to buy before I can actually start putting this technology out and in this time that it takes me to save up the funds to get the last remaining things I need they can join in but it will be done using their own brain power as they have shown me time and time again that, "Sharing is not caring!"


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/87a49b22

So because a few 'controllers' banned you from their forums,
The rest of us are just hung out to dry and you'll take this to the grave like Stan did?