Quote from: OilBarren on March 03, 2008, 07:28:12 AM


YES I DO GET IT, AND FROM NOW ON YOU WILL BE FOREVER KNOWN AS:

AIRYFAIRY22

SORRY DUDE BUT YOU BROUGHT THIS UPON YOURSELF...

Thane

That's ok.

Had always wanted to find the kind of logic loophole I hoped your transformer was, a Free Energy or Antigravity device that somehow tricked the equations, saying to the universe in effect 'now you didn't think of that!'.

Not that one super strange 'energy' made a host of different impossible things possible, but that's where the evidence points, strongly.
So alas I accept that the universe is airy fairy and so must I be also. (though when the aether (read space-time) is not flowing or agitated, energized or distorted it is a very rigid universe granted)

Thane, Isn't there also the possibility that since it doesn't decelerate under generator load conditions, it is producing the effect? i.e. You'd expect it to decelerate but the back EMF flux is feeding back into the motor and helping keep the speed up. I can understand your possibilities too, but I'm just wondering if there might be this third possibility. -Steve http://rimstar.org

MY POINT IS THAT: YOU OUGHT TO HAVE A CONTROL VARIABLE IN YOUR EXPERIMENT.
FOR ME IF YOU CAN'T DEMONSTRATE CONVENTIONAL GENERATOR/PRIME MOVER PERFORMANCE VS MAGNETICALLY COUPLED PERFORMANCE THEN IT'S HARD TO COMPARE.

FOR EXAMPLE:
IF THE AIR GAP IS TOO LARGE THE SYSTEM WILL NOT DECELERATE OR IF THE MOTOR IS TOO POWERFUL ETC.

I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHOW THE "BEFORE" AND "AFTER" SCENARIOS WHERE ALL THINGS ARE VIRTUALLY EQUAL.

Thane

Quote from: aether22 on March 03, 2008, 02:15:10 PM
...please do explain what you mean by (external efficiency) if it's not covered by input power taking a dive as generator losses (outputs), inductive and magnetic increase (as shown in the first vid and hence almost surely present in the 2nd unless the motor dramatically reduces losses in the generator also).

In all seriousness you simply don't want to find that this thing works, you are grasping at straws.

What I mean by external efficiency is simply power out divided by power in. Measure those with Thane's device completely out of action (ie make sure it's exerting no drag on the system, either mechanical or electrical: preferably, remove it altogether). Let's say you measure 80W out for 100W in. That means your motor's efficiency is 80%.

Now, connect Thane's device to the system and connect/disconnect any coils you like in any combination. One of three things can happen:

1. That same 100W in gets you 85W out - then this is a valuable invention because you've increased the efficiency to 85%.

2. But if you only get 75W out, then the efficiency has dropped to 75% so it's a bust.

3. If you get 101W out, then you're dreaming.

I'm not sure why you think this is grasping at straws - which part of this suggestion do you find to be unreasonable or illogical?

Quote from: Bessler007 on February 04, 2008, 10:09:28 AM

Bessler007

...I found the patent.  CIPO isn't as user friendly as the USPO in the states.  They claim to not provide images because they were "unscanable".  Lame.

http://patents.ic.gc.ca/cipo/cpd/en/patent/2437745/images.html?section=description&modificationDate=20070315&page=1&scale=50&rotation=0

They scan text into a graphic but can't scan a drawing into a graphic.

That is not a patent. It's just a rather vague patent application, which was abandoned in March 2006.

Thane;

Thanks for responding.  I think I'll keep my nose out of all this discussion that is going on!   In the mean time I have taken your suggestions and have begun to make the changes.  I have included a variable speed control into the system and now when I turn it on to the minimum speed that it will run at with no output coils shorted it produces about 1 volt AC per coil and turns fairly slowly.  When I start shorting the coils it now starts to decelerate and will come to a stop with all coils connected and no added power to the motor.  I think you were asking if it would do that and now it does.  You are right in that my coil mounts are ferromagnetic (STEEL) and are probably bleeding the flux away.  I will mount the coils on a plastic ring in the next day or so and try again.

Thanks
Vince