Quote from: polarbreeze on March 08, 2008, 06:11:41 PM
I don't feel the need to build one of these myself because so many other people have built them so it does seem apparent that there is something a bit peculiar happening (though nothing outside the laws of physics as we know them). I'm much more interested in figuring out the theoretical explanation for it - that's why I'm such a pain with my questions! In any case, I live only 10 miles away from Thane so I can go look at his setup if I need to.

@ polarbreeze
I also think the effect is explainable by current accepted laws of physics. As previously stated, I think the effect is due to MMF / counter MMF phase changes at high frequency, exaggerated by a magnetic transition lag effect of one half of the output sine cycle created by the heel end configuration of the cores I used.

I'm only referring here to my own experiments - not necessarily Thanes experiments which are slightly different, though I believe they are related. I also think that in my own setup, the increased efficiency is not due to extra energy entering the system, but due to a decrease in losses normally associated with counter MMF by virtue of a phase change of the counter MMF and thus a change in the relationship between the applied MMF and the reactive counter MMF.

Like you and many others, I am very curious and interested in figuring out the correct theoretical explanation for it. And also assessing the most practical way to derive benefit from it.

Cheers from The Toad who Hops....KneeDeep   

Quote from: hoptoad on March 08, 2008, 06:55:53 PM

...assessing the most practical way to derive benefit from it.

That would be the tricky part! Electric motors are already routinely 95% efficient so it's hard to imagine how this effect could provide any cost-effective improvement. It's an intriguing curiosity nonetheless.

"That would be the tricky part! Electric motors are already routinely 95% efficient so it's hard to imagine how this effect could provide any cost-effective improvement. It's an intriguing curiosity nonetheless."
@ polarbreeze

DEAR NEIGHBOR POLAR-ICE,

YOU STILL HAVE IT ALL WRONG.

IT HAS NOTHING WHAT SO EVER TO DO WITH MOTORS OR MOTOR EFFICIENCY.

IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE KNOWN EFFECTS OF LENZ?S LAW AND THE LAW OF CONSERVATION OF ENERGY RE: LOADED GENERATOR CAUSES PRIME MOVER DECELERATION.

AND IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH (THE NOW KNOWN) REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF LENZ?S LAW IN A MAGNETICALLY COUPLED SYSTEM (ACCELERATION).

YOU NOW BEAR THE BURDEN OF RESPONSIBILITY AND OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO OTTAWA UNIVERSITY (1/2 HOUR DRIVE) AND SEE FOR YOURSELF AND CORRECT YOUR MISUNDERSTANDINGS FOR THOSE ON THIS BLOG SITE WHO CANNOT.

SO YOU CAN THEN JOIN YOUR FELLOW BLOGGERS STEVE AND LUC WHO HAVE DONE THE SAME AND CAN SPEAK INTELLIGENTLY ON THIS SUBJECT.

" I must say I am very satisfied with the demonstration and find Thane Heins findings of the effect to be true as shown in all his video's (part 1 to 7)..."  "THE EFFECT IS REAL BOYS AND GIRLS all the way to the permanent magnets increasing the rpm of the split phase induction motor. I have it recorded with my own video camera." gotluc http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4047.135.html

IGNORANCE IS DEFINATELY NOT BLISS

Thane

 


yep how could it be faked lol

it is real !!!

and it works

i dont even have to build it to understand the hows and the whys...

do you all?

isteam!!

just build it ....   

everybody cut... everybody cut... everybody gota cut FOOTLOOSE!!!!

So much theoretical discussion -- so little practical demonstration.

I don't understand why so much effort is invested in trying to get others to "believe" that Mr. Hein's device works. The "money zone" is simply demonstrating that the motor can be put to some practical use, with results superior to anticedent systems. Once you accomplish this, the theoreticians will come leaping in to try to explain what's happening. Until you accomplish a practical use demo, however, few will care -- outside of this thread, that is.