Was Bessler for real?

[lancaIV]

Certain atoms can be converted into energy in an "H" bomb but if there is an equivalence between energy and matter, how can energy be converted into atoms?

Related : energy and matter
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[dxer_87]

"... how can energy be converted into atoms?"

Within dematerialisation some information stays in space about the object. And its harder to achieve the body back. Mostly this can be achieve by prayer and miracle (please, don't laugh). Also teleportation has something to do with dematerialisation and getting back. From my best knowledge a body when teleporting goes into another form of mattery that is gas (consisted of bands of isosters particles - Russians got it xD). Most of destroying hard objects and getting them into the gas. Only we don't know how much last in this from a normal body. Sometimes an acid etheric gas is haunting for objects to dissolve them just as black matter gas is doing.

But don't worry sun is shining, classic physics rules, though its lied mostly in energetic/antigravity and that is urgent for us that we don't make wrong things knowing it a bit better - The Mad Scientist effect/UFO builder.

[onepower]

My point was perpetual motion can easily be proven through countless examples found in nature.

If perpetual motion is the norm then it becomes much more likely that countless inventors like Bessler may have found a way to tap into this energy.

AC

[stivep]

On perpetual motion and machines...

So, if energy and matter including the atom cannot be destroyed and the atom always
has kinetic energy (motion) is this not perpetual motion?.

It would seem to me the people who claim perpetual motion is impossible don't
\understand what an atom is or how it works.
//we learned energy and matter cannot be destroyed this should have raised some questions in our mind.
\Forget creationism that's a rabbit hole but something which must remain in motion
which cannot be destroyed definitely raises certain questions.

AC

Any explanation in  memory - _(minus) explanation that is forgotten = some clue.
  Any explanation ignored = 0
    Ignorant :
      -can't challenge the ignored,=0
        -doesn't understand and can't forget, that what was  explained  as he ignored it.
            So you may have some clue if you have  simply forgot  the explanation.
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Ignorant may  never  refresh the ignored as it equals =0
   So for all  others here it is some non  Zero information.
      Atom is not in perpetual motion at all and it was EXPLANED to non-ignorant
        Law of conservation  of matter  belongs to classical mechanics.
            Mass = energy   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence       
                So mass after conversion is represented in form of pure energy. (gasoline engine, HHO, Hydrogen engine  etc. + leftovers )

In reality, the conservation of mass only holds approximately and is considered part of a series of assumptions
in classical mechanics
The law has to be modified to comply with the laws of  quantum mechanics and special relativity
under the principle of   mass–energy equivalence which states that energy and mass form one conserved quantity.
For very energetic systems the conservation of mass only is shown not to hold,
as is the case in nuclear  reactions and particle-antiparticle  annihilation  in  particle physics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass
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conclusion:
Most of problems arise due to a reader  ignoring updates.
Every Pioneer is just  making a base:
  e.g.: TESLA evolved to the modern electromagnetism
         science of Mendeleyev evolved to the modern  periodic table.
            science of Bohr atom evolved to the modern model of atom
                 science of Albert Einstein  evolved to Quantum Mechanics of today.
                     Classical Mechanics must  obey  Quantum Mechanics of today. - not reverse.

What non ignorant needs to memorize:
- conservation of mass only holds approximately and is considered part of a series of assumptions
in classical mechanics
Wesley

[Cloxxki]

My point was perpetual motion can easily be proven through countless examples found in nature.

If perpetual motion is the norm then it becomes much more likely that countless inventors like Bessler may have found a way to tap into this energy.

AC

Yes, some things can run indefinitely, but the output will be minute for a large device.

Higher power density is where it's at. A smaller/lighter device for its power output, a continuous rating or average per 24 if relevant. If a device take up a full parking space, say like a 20 foot container, how much should the output be to be worth it, the space it eats on top of the manufacturing cost and maintenance?

A compact device the size of a 20ft container would easily cost €100-300K. Competing with a large solar roof and battery storage which barely takes up space. And then we need to look at annual maintenance and realistic economic life of the unit. 100 kW non-stop would be cool, but not necessarily worth having if it lasts 10 years for a €200K unit with $30K in annualized maintenance. A unit needs to realistically last 15+ years, put out more power at tha 20ft container size and be low on maintenance. Or simply: BE SMALLER.
The higher the power density, the harder to come up with a non-stop runner, even if you throw in a battery buffer.

Are there estimations of Bessler's power output for the large wheel? Was it seen running under load a really long time?