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Bessler , Karl I! The fat lady is gonna sing , haters bring it I'm not skeered .

Started by christo4_99, June 28, 2012, 06:38:25 AM

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johnny874

Quote from: lumen on July 14, 2012, 06:35:45 PM
I never thought gravity wheels could work but the story of Bessler is quite convincing for a story. Then I found this simple design that must work and could possibly be how Bessler did it!
Christo,
Tell us what your thinking.

   lumen,
  Am quite certian he was successful. One thing you'll find out about christo, he's a paper tiger, won't ever build or show anything.
This is something someone in bw posted; "James looks possible if a innertube approach was used on the outside of the wheel, all you would need to do is squeeze ".
That is the basic idea.
What Chris doesn't understand and why he's not building anything is it does take time to do a credible job to demonstrate someone else's work. he's got an axe to grind and I think it's with the world at large.
As I posted in bw, to demonstarte that bessler could have done as he claimed does make it necessary to build using similar materials to what he had available. This means that no platic can be used or other modern materials.
Here's a link to the thread Chris has refered to. It has a simple outline that wouldn't be to difficult for an experianced wood worker to build.
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=101516
@Chris, why don't you post your idea ? Then you would have somehting to be on about.

                                                                                      Jim

johnny874

Quote from: christo4_99 on July 14, 2012, 07:34:23 PM
I will not bore anyone with what I'm thinking...I will SHOW the world what I am THINKING !  Where everyone else ( except for Bessler ) has failed I will succeed and we will see who has made a career out of failure and leading others into nothing . I will gladly publish the reasons Bessler attributed his success to God ( and not just simple mechanics or himself ). You will be able to either build or purchase this device . I still have not built anything but my understanding of the device is complete ... and I have most of the materials right here at home .

P.S. I'm just adding this for S&G . Because regardless of the giant brains over at BW forum , I being considered a newb and a troll myself will prove them all to be of inferior insight and/or intellect and in due time (less than ten years!) .
Kaine aka tasier79 @ BW forum wrote to johnny874 :
Dear troll

Although you believe you have some personal gift and understanding of Besslers wheel, let me assure you that you do not. Although your infantile attempts at solving this problem are expected from a beginner, most  beginners wouldn't be delusional enough to believe that they alone have a unique understanding of gravity that defies the laws of physics.
Whatever your personal grievances you believe you have with certain well respected members of this forum exist only in your head. You are your own worst enemy.
Seek help
Yours Sincerely
Kaine

Me again: This is a typical  "holier than thou and I'm a good judge " attitude expressed in various ways by nearly everyone on that forum . What they really hope for ( in their stale and desperate souls ) is that some newb WILL (because they are fresh out of ideas)  come along and out of a need to fit in will dump the simple and ingenious design ( or at least some semblance of it ) into their laps . I really would much rather sleep with dogs and fleas than try to fit in with that group of guys . I encourage anyone to not even try , all of the top slots are taken by the most anal retentive persons one could imagine .

  Christo,
If you notice, I didn't engage him any more than necessary. I think also where I showed Bessler's Apologia Poetica does describe different things in what I am pursuing, I have their attention. Unlike you, I have stated my case if that is what you would want to call it.
Your rants would do nothing but discredit Bessler and alternative energy.

@All, if you read some of the thread I posted a link to, you will see where i have referenced the Apologia Poetica and how it describes certain aspects of the design I have been working on. And as I posted, to demonstarte that bessler's claims are credible, I would need to do a period build which will take more time than if I were just trying to prove a point.

                                                                                       Jim


christo4_99

Quote from: johnny874 on July 15, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
Your rants would do nothing but discredit Bessler and alternative energy.
We'll see about that . Maybe Tasier79 was right about you . You think you have great and superior ideas . You think that you are a hero . You think you can trash talk everyone and promote your own ideas . Build something hero , then run your pie hole .

johnny874

Quote from: christo4_99 on July 16, 2012, 10:17:54 AM
We'll see about that . Maybe Tasier79 was right about you . You think you have great and superior ideas . You think that you are a hero . You think you can trash talk everyone and promote your own ideas . Build something hero , then run your pie hole .

   Christo,
here's a link to what I think is a very good idea. unfortunately you know I can't do anything until after I have surgery and have returned to work.
This idea came about when mscoffman posted a link to fundy.ca in a thread where I was discussing tidal generators.
See what happens when people take the time to discuss things ? Of course, with you, you are much like Alan.
@All, pg. 4, dated Tue. Jul 17th by james_arne. it's a very workable idea where buoyancy is used. This emans that the generator would not be dependenant on the tide and could deliver consistent power.

                                                                               Jim
http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5289&start=45

@ Christo, lmao  ;D