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Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY

Started by 27Bubba, September 18, 2012, 02:17:22 PM

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Hoppy

Quote from: NickZ on December 22, 2017, 09:48:09 AM

  Anyways, what I had asked T-1000, was about the specific details to look for and tune to, to be able to find the interaction between HV and the LV, which can lead to OU. The little secrets that we are NOT being told about.
   

Nick,

You wrote in an earlier post that you don't subscribe to a device running OU, only a self running device. You drew a distinction between the two.

AlienGrey

Quote from: Void on December 22, 2017, 11:12:58 AM


Hi Nick. I already commented on that. Read my reply to Jeg again. (just kidding) ;)
I expressed my understanding of what Tesla appears to have been referring to there (instantaneous power).
I could be wrong, but that is what Tesla appears to be referring to.

For example, in that same document, there is also this:
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Counsel
What I wanted to get at was, did that depend upon the suddenness of the discharge?
Tesla
Yes.  It is merely the electrical analogue of a pile driver or a hammer.  You accumulate energy through a long distance and then you deliver it with a tremendous suddenness.  The distance through which the mass moves is small—the pressure immense.
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So, Tesla compares it to a pile driver, with the accumulation of energy through a long distance being
analogous to charging up a capacitor over a period time and then releasing it in a sudden impulse where
a very high instantaneous power can be achieved. There is of course a big difference between instantaneous
power and average power. This is what Tesla appears to be describing, as best as I can tell.

Also, as we have discussed in the past, I think if you look into it, you will find that
many things that have been claimed about Tesla can't actually be traced back to Tesla's
actual writings. For example Peter Lindemann claimed a number of things about Tesla
but did not provide references to where Tesla actually said some of those things that Lindemann
was claiming. If someone can point me to actual statements (original documents/transcriptions) from Tesla
himself where Tesla talks about deriving useful energy from the aether or similar I would be very interested to see it.

Also, as I have mentioned here previously, people have very much corrupted Tesla's actual concept of 'radiant energy'
and make all sorts of claims about it that Tesla does not appear to ever actually said. I have read Tesla's patent where Tesla
describes quite clearly what he meant by 'radiant energy', and it is quite different than what many people
claim on the net. :) I have posted details about this in this thread in the past. Anyway, I know from experience that pointing
out things like that makes little difference. The unsupported claims will continue to be repeated over and over.

This all doesn't matter much anyway I think for the purposes of this thread. What I think is more important 
is what people like  Kapanadze and Akula were really doing in their circuits. As of yet, I have not seen
anyone who can convincingly demonstrate the main principle behind these type of devices with an actual test
setup, so any offered explanations are of course still just speculation at this point.

All the best...
I think you might find it was Townsend some where about 1890 - 1920 some where around that era when he was playing around with ionized gas like the aura boriallis phenomena (northern lights).

NickZ

   Void:
   You mentioned, "There is of course a big difference between instantaneous
power and average power. This is what Tesla appears to be describing, as best as I can tell".

    But, Tesla also give reference to the input to output gains available from the original 1kW input source to the 5kW, provided at the output side. I think that that is the point. How to obtain that increase.
   Which is what I was talking about. Two different things, from the instantaneous/average power, maybe, but based on the same idea, of obtaining the extra juice, that's not just coming from the input source.

   Hoppy:
   As you know, the term overunity is a misnomer.
   Yet, the devices that we are after are not closed systems, and therefore there is no man made input source, once it's running itself. Nor OU, meaning more out than in, as there is no IN. However, the extra energy that it's running on must come from somewhere.

   Some guys have mentioned that a device would need to produce overunity, first, for it to be able self run.  That I don't know.
But, I am here to find out.

Void

Quote from: NickZ on December 22, 2017, 02:54:00 PM
   Void:
   You mentioned, "There is of course a big difference between instantaneous
power and average power. This is what Tesla appears to be describing, as best as I can tell".

   Yes, that's what he talking about. But, Tesla also give reference to the input to output gains available from the original 1kW input source to the 5kW, provided at the output side.
   Which is what I was talking about. Two different things, maybe, but based on the same idea, of obtaining the extra juice, that's not just coming from the input source.

Hi Nick. Well I am inclined to think that Tesla was talking about instantaneous power in all cases
there where he was talking about power increases, but I could be wrong. :) Unless someone clarifies
by saying they are specifically referring to instantaneous power or average power, then there is room for confusion.
Since Tesla is no longer here to clarify what he meant, then we can only make a best guess based
on everything that was said.

All the best...

NickZ

   Then if not, why would he mention anything about the 1kW to 5kW? 
   Was he just talking about using a capacitor to dampen a wave?
    A dampened wave by itself will not give you more output, like 5 times more, than the 1kW input used.
   Maybe we'll never know what he really meant. But, of course a capacitor can give you more out than in, for and instant.
But, it's not free energy.