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Overunity Machines Forum



Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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RMatt

Hi All,

Bob again,

looking at the only diagrams available, do you think pnp and npn transistors will help? limited v/a?

I think with another drink, that "origin" on the "-" side might mean total ground-put a ground rod in the ground, preferably deep. gather E energy! So?

Any questions I will not be qualified to answer because
I need another drink!!!! yea!

My tempory disability( dog tried to kill me) is slowing me down some!
But I Love this fun!

Bob

hanon

Hi RMatt,

The quote that you refers about Figuera generator is dated in 1902 ( 20 HP and 550 V), so it was obtained with his 1902 generator (which didn´t ahve 7 stages but a different arrangement. In the 1902 patent is written that he only shows a group of four stages but more stages could be used for increasing the output). All the newspaper references that we have are from 1902, later, after selling the patent there are no more references, and his 1908 was filed just before dying so no more reference in the newspapers.

About the NPN transistors in Kelly´s diagram I think there won´t be any limitation V/A because they are for the inducer current which is supposed to be small.  Instead of using a cascade of the 2N3055 + 2N2222 to create a Darlington you could use a BDX53 which is directly a Darlington (so it is simpler to be welded)

Regards

Doug1

Figuera's invention predates the invention of the transister so none could have been used in the device and it is not certain the device can work with them. The time line for the ocilloscope would sugjest he used an older version paper record type or one he made himself which is actually easier then you might think.Calabration would be questionable.Regardless of the 1st or 2nd patent it can only function one way,the right way.
  If a child could do it what gives a child an advantage over you. A child does not know anything and can only follow the directions no matter how obsurd they may be to some one ells who thinks themselves an expert. A good explaination of the process has yet been put up for constuctive argument. If no one can come up with a reasonable expaination of how it could work to apply the math required to resolve the material aspects of the construction for a working model,then you can only hope for accidental results.Which will be useless in the end. If you can not get past lenz law your doomed, if you >can get past it< you have won and will be able to apply it to anything you wish.
 

a.king21

Quote from: Doug1 on September 02, 2013, 10:35:59 AM
Figuera's invention predates the invention of the transister so none could have been used in the device and it is not certain the device can work with them. The time line for the ocilloscope would sugjest he used an older version paper record type or one he made himself which is actually easier then you might think.Calabration would be questionable.Regardless of the 1st or 2nd patent it can only function one way,the right way.
  If a child could do it what gives a child an advantage over you. A child does not know anything and can only follow the directions no matter how obsurd they may be to some one ells who thinks themselves an expert. A good explaination of the process has yet been put up for constuctive argument. If no one can come up with a reasonable expaination of how it could work to apply the math required to resolve the material aspects of the construction for a working model,then you can only hope for accidental results.Which will be useless in the end. If you can not get past lenz law your doomed, if you >can get past it< you have won and will be able to apply it to anything you wish.

I agree. As to how this works? I see L1 and L2 as a split coil and the pickup coil is in the middle where the Bloch wall resides. Simple. No Lenz in the middle as far as I understand  it because it's balanced by the opposing N and S fields in every coil. Yet this guy figured out  a way to make the bloch wall oscillate. Brilliant.

hanon

Quote from: a.king21 on September 02, 2013, 09:28:37 PM
I agree. As to how this works? I see L1 and L2 as a split coil and the pickup coil is in the middle where the Bloch wall resides. Simple. No Lenz in the middle as far as I understand  it because it's balanced by the opposing N and S fields in every coil. Yet this guy figured out  a way to make the bloch wall oscillate. Brilliant.
Hi a.king21,
Could you explain better how can energy be extracted from an oscillating bloch wall? Is there any link or reference to this subject?

What it is true is that Figuera stated that the distance between the two inducer external coils should be very small. And this statement is related with some kind of effect that he was trying to capture. Is it needed to wind each external coil in clockwise (CW) and counter-clockwise (CCW) directions?