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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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Doug1

There is nothing to stop the flux path from following all the way around if it alternates it will still go all the around and fluctuate back and forth. There is nothing to stop it from doing so.The air gap doesn't stop it. It just blow out really wide and becomes weak in the air gap. Like a bar magnet ,the flux runs from one end the other but widens out and becomes weakest in the middle where the flux is furthest from either pole. If it runs round in a complete path it works same as a transformer with one of it's ends cut off.

marathonman

so what are you trying to say.????? i am very confused....... that the magnetic flux will jump 4 or 5 inches and mess everything up or what.  have you seen bajac's system it goes all the way around with cores and he got good results.
more tidbits..


marathonman

Quote from: Doug1 on March 11, 2014, 06:30:31 PM
We can make an electromagnet stronger by doing these things:
wrapping the coil around an iron core  adding more turns to the coil > Reduces current by resistance due to length
increasing the current flowing through the coil. > Requires thicker wire and results in fewer turns and succesive layers decline in the additional strength to the field with distance from the core.

What is not said is what you need. Everything that is said is true.
I'm not disputing what was said but Sorry i'm not good at cat n mouse games.  can you at least cough up a hair ball for me ( ie.. a clue)
i plan on using 18 awg on my primary laminated cores with 100 volts or so @ 1 amp power supply i built and 8 awg on my secondaries. i plan on using a adjustable vitreous wound resistor with multiple taps,  timed with a board i designed having nine channels/Transistors for #1 and #2 board has two channels that i built. i am not an Electrical Buff or an Engineer so "YES I COULD USE SOME HELP". ive been busting my balls on ideas for this post with no avail .tired of being shot down from people that has no working model...plus darn Iron laminates still not here.
I brought up John Reardon because I think it is relevant to this project as they are so similar and both achieved OU.
i have read and re read every thing i can get my hands on pertaining to this post.....what next

SolarLab

Hi Fellows,

This only takes a few minutes and you may find it instructional.

Go to this web page, start the application and perform the following.

http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/faradays-law

- select "Run Now!" [should open a new browser tab];

Try this: (use the pernament magnet to simulate electromagnet)
     {select: 1 Coil; Show field lines; Flip magnet to "N" faces left - consider this our Reference Point}
     {Note: if the Java Script stops responding - just reload the page}

   - move the magnet to a point where the magnet face touches the second Left most coil winding;
      (the vertical legs of the "N" are obstructed by the second right and final right coil windings)
   - use "Flip magnet" a few times and observe the meter (just to get feel for the orientation);
   - set to the Reference Point (N pole inside the coil);
   - move the magnet Right (about 1 coil winding distance) and observe the meter movement (should peg "-" negative)
      {amplitude depends on how rapid [dV/dt} the magnet was moved};
   - continue to move the magnet to the Left in 1 coil winding increments (simulating commutator steps), observe meter;
   - when the magnet is over the voltage meter "Flip magnet" This we will call the Terminal Point;
   - now step the magnet Left towards the coil in 1 coil winding increments (observe the meter);
   - when the magent reaches the Reference Point - "Flip magnet";
   - repeat this motion while flipping the magnet at the Reference and Terminal Points.

Interesting, at worst!    I may have screwed up in my sequencing but you'll get the idea.

Other demo's that may be useful:

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/electromag/index.html

- review the "interactive java tutorials for:
    - magnetic field lines
    - Faraday's 2nd Experiment {note that E = -(DF/Dt)
    - Lenz's Law [this is a very good one]
    - Attraction and Repulsion By Magnetic Poles

Actually most of the interactive java applets are instructive (some are in development and don't work well yet).

Solarlab


dieter

Quote from: Doug1 on March 11, 2014, 06:53:13 PM
There is nothing to stop the flux path from following all the way around if it alternates it will still go all the around and fluctuate back and forth. There is nothing to stop it from doing so.The air gap doesn't stop it. It just blow out really wide and becomes weak in the air gap. Like a bar magnet ,the flux runs from one end the other but widens out and becomes weakest in the middle where the flux is furthest from either pole. If it runs round in a complete path it works same as a transformer with one of it's ends cut off.


Why would you want the flux NOT  go trough it? Isn't that the whole point? But there's an other thing: i assume the left and right primaries are pulsed in alternating amplitude? That would mean that each back emf, caused by the end of a pulse, would fight against the pulse in the other primary, reducing the efficiency. If you turn one primary upside down, this would do the opposite, the back emf of one coil becomes the afterburner of the other coil, increasing voltage but leave amperage stabile. Reducing the duty time of the pulse, as well as a brutal square wave shape (although contradicting the sinusoid round shape by Figueras commutator) may increase efficiency even further.


To utilize the back emf is not normal for a transformer.
Actually it's more of a back emp than emf, electromotive pulse that is caused by B Field collapse . Actually, it delivers pretty much all the required energy to establish the B Field of the next pulse in the other primary, therefor these coils practically can switch polarity with almost zero input power. Just don't hold the field, that ain't neccessary since only the chanches will induce current in the secondary anyway... so the key may be: switch polarity without any pauses, as fast as the core allows. Iron I guess <1 khz, but think ferrite, or on ebay they got metglas cores for 50 bucks...


I refer to my ferrite core experiment, where I was getting 25 Volt from 1 volt input, tho the ratio of turns was 2 to 1, not 25 to 1. Airgaps are seen in many similar designs, see the great pdf "chapter3"(on page 1 of the "i tried to replicate smith device" in solid state devices). Getting 25V was an anomaly, regardless of efficiency, and the art of reaching high efficiency in any coil-core-coil transfer is truely a science by it's own, not simple at all. For instance, a core must be about 95% Saturated to be effective. 101% and nothing goes, or 45%, poor efficiency. So the dimensions are important. Size, turns, voltage, it all plays together.


NRamadwami, wish you all the best in your daily duties.


Solarlab, thanks for the links!