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Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE

Started by bajac, October 07, 2012, 06:21:28 PM

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NRamaswami

I'm really astonished by the prices of iron rods you are talking about. I bought 300 kgm of iron rods which needed to be cut to sizes here. About 260 of them remain non magnetized and about 40 kgm have become mild magnetic rods. Most of the rods that I got were high purity soft iron rods. If any one of you wants I can buy it from here and organize it to be cut and then send it to you. The small amounts of cores that you make to test may not work. No disrespect intended. Iron is the least magnetizable material and neodymium is the most magnetizable as my limited knowledge goes. Since you are using the least magnetizable material you need to have high core sizes or otherwise you will be hit by saturation issues immediately.

I can see that majority here have not had hands on experience and are good in theory. I do not have theoretical knowledge but I have a lot of hands on experience.

Magnets or Electromagnets do not behave in the way we expect them to behave. We need to follow them up and learn from them how they behave. Theories are not accurate. For example Magnetic field strength of a solenoid = Current x No of turns per unit length. Now if we use the same length solenoid one smaller diameter and one 10 times larger diameter what will happen. Will the large core get saturated at the current of the same solenoid. These formulas are not very accurate because they would put the magnetic field strength to be same which is not correct in practice.

Marathonman..You have quoted Figuera patent extensively but has forgotten one small thing. he has put all N magnets on side and all S Magnets on other side. If you put an N magnet and S magnet adjacent to each other what will happen the opposite poles will attrack each other and they jump towards each other. Your idea is correct and you have understood. But the poles have to be all N poles on one side and S poles on another side and the central coil is wound in only one direction. I'm saying this because I do not want you to get hurt. I have hurt myself using small neodymium magnets and these are comparitively large size iron cores. You need to be very careful when testing them.

Lot of iron is needed to do this project. The soft iron is in the center and the primary cores are carbon steel ones. The Primary cores have to be made a permanent magnet core before the current from the commutator and resistors is given to the primaries.

Resistors are needed and are a must to increase the voltage of the input DC current so that the DC amperage is reduced.

If you look at the patent drawing of Figuera 1908 patent you would find two things. Current is given from N1 and S7. Simply from N1 to N7 current decreases and voltage increases. From S7 to S1 current decreases and voltage increases. So if in one N magnet current is high S magnet has voltage high and vice versa.

Backemf follows the least resistant path as far as I have learnt. Back emf of N1 goes to S1 because the receeding current of S1 is the least resistanct part for the N1 back emf  and back emf of S1 goes to N1 for the same reason. Normal transformer back emf of N1 will affect N1 adversely and this is absent in this set up. This is how Lenz is defeated here. This is why Figuera transformer is called asymmetrical transformer.

The only thing that I do not understand is where is the need for the commutator. Once the current is started in the seccondary it can power the primary continuously. It is still not clear to me as to why we need the commutator. Possibly I need to test with DC votage.

When Using AC the straight bar method that I have shown in the photo along with multifilar coils works best when the poles are a straigh bar.
if you keep increasing the number of wires in the multifilar coils the input amperage keeps going down but the magnetic field strength of the primary is increased.

I have iron to make a maximum of three secondaries and four primaries as you have seen. It is a very expensive experiment and we may have to make 8 to 10 modules to make the output of the secondary exceed the input from the primary.  Some Learned friend earlier indicated that if you keep increasing the secondary cores the secondary output will increase and primary would decrease. That is correct as I have seen from actual observations. But it is very difficult to believe in at first and very costly to implement.

To all experiments please be careful. These are heavy devices and no risk should be taken and the entire earth should be insulated and the walls should also be insulated. The rods carry current. Be careful and all the best.

marathonman

RandyFL; i to am using a circuit like Patrick suggested but i chose the TO-247 MJH11020's instead of the separate Transistors. this is what i will use for the control of my Mag amps, since it only takes milli amps to saturate a core with DC. less wasteful than Resistors.

antijon; Yes i know ! but i believe in what i say....and something in my heart tell's me that i am right. i studied the rotating Dynamo for months and the interaction's of the Magnets with the Coils. the reason the coils are wired as they are and why Figueras separated the cores.  i ran the simulation's in my mind over and over. at night when i was half asleep i dreamed in color seeing the magnet flux move through the coils as the magnets Approach and withdrawal. then at work all of a sudden i stood up and a massive bolt of what ever hit me and it was clear as day.
The stationary Dynamo.

iflewmyown

marathonman, You should keep a civil tongue in your head. Nramaswami has given a huge contribution to this work and shared it freely. So far you have shown drawings. For what it is worth several of your drawings do not work at all. I wasted some time trying them even though there was no reason to believe they would work. I have been at this for over thirty years and have read hundreds of reports from people who have solved the free energy problem, in the end they were mistaken. So when you show an actual machine working I'll buy the champagne. Until then I won't hold my breath.
Garry

RandyFL

Two Mondays ago I almost got killed by a dump truck ( totaled the rear quarter panel of my 2002 Toyota fishing car ) I was provoke by the dump truck and then I returned the provocation...when my car did a 180 I was suddenly " scared " ...

when it was all over my wife took me out to eat...when I was half finished my dinner I realized how angry my wife was at me for being that stupid... bottom line - my wife wanted to belt me for not thinking of her spending the rest of her life without me...

My point is ... don't let other ppl ruin your day/night .... " avoid " them.

All the best

antijon

 NRamaswami, back EMF is the same as normal current, it will follow every path. Whether you have resistors or wire it will still behave as normal current does.

Your experiments remind me of the Cook patent. Extremely large inductors with a lot of wire.... but I think you understand back EMF differently, as your are talking about the magnetic fields. Which you are correct, a North pole facing a South pole will have a beneficial effect and lower input current... that is if they are out of phase. I need to test this again.

You're right that we don't understand magnetism. The Cook patent is really just two large transformers but still remains unreplicated.

Marathonman, it's not that I don't believe you, but the Crayons may help me understand. lol, just kidding. We all have different ideas because we're all different people. We're thinkers and tinkerers. In fact, we may never truly replicate Figuera's generator, but we're all working and sharing knowledge along the way. It was your perpendicular coil idea that lead me to my idea... and who knows, I may not replicate Figuera, but I may make something else, and spread that knowledge around.  NRamaswami said his device made him feel ill. Someone else may read that and later use that knowledge to make something that makes people feel better. Point is, sharing is caring... and don't be a hater (I'm just saying that because apparently your parents didn't teach you).