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Graham Gunderson?s dragless generator patent, Lenz law violation !

Started by hartiberlin, July 27, 2006, 04:45:33 PM

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jake

It's interesting.  Wouldn't be too hard to build a prototype to test the principle.


Liberty

Quote from: tao on July 28, 2006, 12:37:45 AM
All I has to say is, wow.

Read this page describing the patent posted above by hartiberlin:
http://magneticpowerinc.com/patent.html

Mark Goldes says " Following construction of a successful prototype, a U.S. patent application was filed covering this advanced electrical generator."

To me that means that the device indeed works, and if the device does indeed work, then this is IT.

My ONLY QUESTION for Mark Goldes would be:

The patent states that the magnets can become demagnetized, was this a necessary addition for trying to get the Patent office to pass the Patent, or do the magnets really become demagnetized?

AND
If the magnets become demagnetized, how long, or, how much energy could be used from a given setup before the magnets lost thier magnetization?



It would be interesting to see output figures per module (to know how many modules are needed to produce a given amount of power) and approx. cost per module.  Also Tao's question about magnet life would be nice to know the answer to. 
Liberty

"Converting Magnetic Force Into Motion"
Liberty Permanent Magnet Motor

FredWalter

Quote from: jake on July 28, 2006, 07:40:40 AM
It's interesting.  Wouldn't be too hard to build a prototype to test the principle.

It wouldn't be to hard... for someone with access to CNC machining equipment.

If your prototype works, can you make the CAD drawings available here, along with a material list, and photos of your prototype?

jake

QuoteIt wouldn't be to hard... for someone with access to CNC machining equipment.

You could build a test device with an electric drill and a hack saw!

Cut off a short piece of iron pipe and drill some holes in it.  Stick the magnets to the sides, lace some wire through it, and presto!  There it is!

hartiberlin

Quote from: tao on July 28, 2006, 02:21:45 PM

I'd say the easiest way would be to buy a nice toroidal transformer core and drill holes in it.

Place the proper amount of NdFeb magnets on the core above the proper holes.

Wind the output wire(magnet wire) through the holes and wind the input wire(magnet wire) around the whole unit, magnets and all(as the patent suggests).

Power the thing with a series resonant circuit like the patent suggests and power a load indefinitely...


Yes, Tao,
this is the same, what I also just thought, how to do it.
The question is, how big in diameter the holes should be maimum
and if it is better to have many output coil windings going through the
holes with very small diameter wire or just lower turns with bigger diameter
wire, so if it is much better to go for more output voltage or more output current.
Normally you get the maximum output power out of a power supply or device,
if you use the same load resistance as the inner resistance of the device,
so if you want to get 100 Watts out, you would also heat the output windings
with 100 Watts too, if the impedances match !
So this is why normally you don?t match the inner resistance with the load resistance,
so less output power is drawn  but then also the wasted inner resistance power
is also much less.

But for the input coils I would use very big diameter wire and only use about 10 to 100 Windings or so,
to have a very low ohmic resistance and also low inductance, so the frequency could be put
into the Khz range.
If you use a higher frequency you will also get more voltage and thus more power out.
Thus with a matched capacitance at the resonance frequency of the input LC circuit
you would need very low input power and due to low ohmic resistance of the coil would
have low ohmic losses at the resonance frequency for the input current.

The question I still have, is, if it is better to
1. use many holes in short distances and thus
have more voltage at lower turn windingsnumbers and
use only smaller sized magnets ontop and onbottom of the core
or
2. have less holes in the core with bigger hole diameters and have
thus more winding-turn-numbers through them for higher output voltage
and have less and bigger magnets on them ?

What is better, 1. or 2. ?
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