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Free Solid State/mechanical energy

Started by KSW, April 13, 2005, 06:59:25 PM

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orosado

Quote from: Erfinder on May 04, 2007, 03:14:53 AM
The collapse of a magnetic field signals that we have transitioned from a condition where positive charge dominates to one where negative discharge dominates!

Fig 2 Negative Discharge coming soon!

Hello Erfinder,

Thank you for the drawing, this clears up a lot! I have been trying to figure this out by myself and I seem to be too slow in opening my mind to accept the truth. I haven't been collaborating much latelly, but I have been paying great attention to everyone.

I'm really looking forward to your negative discharge drawing.

Regards,
Omar

allcanadian

@erfinder
Ok Im guilty, sorry for the misquotes.
The problem I think we are having here is that we are given leads to follow, information but we have no foundation to build on. We tend to build things from the ground up, not the reverse. As such we look to multiple sources, from multiple points of view and it all gets confusing. We have been chasing our tails here and many people have just given up.
Your last post is exactly what was lacking I think, We need a solid foundation to build on, some point of reference we can always relate back to.
The following was posted a long time ago, and we (I) have yet to fully understand it.

Quote
"Positive charge attracts positive charge, and expels negative discharge. 
Negative discharge repels both negative discharge and positive charge."

                                    The Universal One

Positive Charge = Paramagnetism = EMF
Negative Discharge = Diamagnetism = BEMF


I think we should forget the machines and master this first, I think this is our foundation which will lead to an understanding of Teslas machines. I have a thousand theories on Teslas motor and have posted my best ones, but this is a guessing game at best. And the above statement can have a thousand meanings as well, so maybe we should try to find out which one is correct.
Im getting tired of guessing at this.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

Trump

allcanadian

Good catch. My statement I was not correct, (to re-invent the wheel) in that respect, but your statement was true. In respect the wheel, "Patent" was never understood in that point of view, so your statement was true, we need to re-invent the wheel so to speak.

I feel that sometimes we have things explained to us, then later on it is explained to us in a different fashion with the intent of clarifying things, then at times it changes MY reasoning on what we thought in the first place, then I need to re-think things all over again.

Erfinder is correct, In a lot of cases people just want to know how the motor works, as Erfinder stated, BUT I need to know how it works in order to know why it works, it is not just one or the other to my opinion at lest.



Trump



allcanadian

So here is the topic at hand.

"Positive charge attracts positive charge, and expels negative discharge.

-the current flowing through the primary represent positive charge
-negative discharge is expeled but at the same time bound to positive charge
- In order that the positive charge can move it expels negative discharge, and tunnels through it!
- As long as the current is allowed to flow positive charge will dominate negative discharge!
- First it must be understood that the currents can manifest in two ways.  1. Positive charge dominating negative discharge, or 2. Negative discharge dominating positive charge.
-The collapse of a magnetic field signals that we have transitioned from a condition where positive charge dominates to one where negative discharge dominates!


This makes sense until I get to the part about---
Positive charge attracts positive charge

This is the opposite of what we understand, opposite charges should attract not like charges. Unless you put the "positive charge" into the context of a magnetic field, being attracted to another magnetic field, but the "other" magnetic field must be of an opposite polarity. This is my biggest problem right here, I imagine it's very easy for erfinder but Im just not getting this.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

barbosi

Now, I hope to have my time share on this... The space became crowdy.


Quote from: Erfinder on May 04, 2007, 12:18:26 PM


I have already said that that which we call magnetism is in reality the other half of electricity!  When I say magnetic field collapse what I mean is positive charge has given the position of dominance to negative discharge! 

And I have asked for clarifications because as I see, yourself use magnetic field in your posts. However, in one you said:
"You assume that magnetic fields exist!  One day science.........."

It doesn't matter to me as long I understand what are you referring to. So from now, "magnetic field" it is, and we all should understand you definition.

As for the reading material, I meant "from what you have recommended already, where we can find related information?" It would keep the thread as clean as possible, without opinions and counter-opinions on the topic.

Regards.
When the Power of Love overcomes the Love of Power, there will be peace.