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Overunity Machines Forum



Super simple way to see proof Pseudo Solid principle works using ring magnets

Started by gammarayburst, December 03, 2013, 04:51:41 PM

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dieter

If I didn't misunderstand you then that's exactly what I plan to do. The rotating magnet is rotating constantly. As the rotor approaches the upper arm, that magnet approaches as well. The closer the rotor gets, the closer is also that magnet, increasing the attraction.


The problem so far is: the "mobile" magnet must pass by the static magnet. As both shafts are connected with gears, the attraction of the rotor will help to overcome the repelling force between mobile and static magnet.


If the mobile magnet once has passed by the static magnet, it will be pushed away, taking the rotor with it.


Material properties  really have a vital impact. Low saturation of the plates may help to ease the passing by of the magnets, yet the entire tip of the horseshoe must feature an opposite pole to be able to push away the rotor, as soon as the mobile magnet once has passed over to the rotor.
.I wish I had a real shop...


BR


dieter

Today I've lost two hours in trying to make one of my "famous" wooden gears, using industrial grade plywood, only to realize that the layers are glued together just barely. Instead of 36 theeth it had like 28  :o ...


But I'm gettin there, slowly but steadily. I'm using a two arms rotor, so the gears translation is 1:2.


This puppy's gonna run on 4 Skate bearings, so there will be plenty of friction. However, if I can test the principle, esp. the pseudosolid effect (quasi polarity exchange) in step 2/3, then it does its job.


An other idea (maybe that's what you meant, Butch) would be, if the static and the mobile magnet are alternating in their purpose, so the mobile magnet would not pass by the static one, but instead kick it to the rotor and then become the new "static" for one cycle, only to be kicked and become the mobile one again in the next cycle (I doubt anyone has understood this :D bit hard to explain), but it would definitely be hard to build. And the by-passing method isn't requiring more energy, because all the force we need to pass by will be returned, like in an elastic spring.


BR

mscoffman

Quote from: dieter on February 06, 2015, 02:37:27 PM

I did explain that, does anybody read my stuff at all?  ;D


   I do.    Keep up the good and interesting work, dieter.

:S:MarkSCoffman

gammarayburst

" And the by-passing method isn't requiring more energy, because all the force we need to pass by will be returned, like in an elastic spring."


BR

BR, My tests showed that when the air gaps at the magnet poles were as small as .005" that the magnets did not repel or attract when passing close to each other. This is when they are between two iron bars. I believe one of my videos shows that. I will look it up and post link.
Butch

dieter

Yes, I've seen that. It may indeed mostly neutralize attraction and repelling in your setup, but depending on the geometry there may still be some effects, although weaker. The thickness of the iron bars is important. In my case of the thin sheet metal I clearly still get a repelling force. I hope I can test the principle nevertheless.


@Mark, thanks.


BR