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Electric Motor Geenerator/alternator looped

Started by rice, December 06, 2013, 08:59:37 PM

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AnandAadhar

Quote from: lumen on February 11, 2014, 01:47:16 PM
@Mark,

Sorry mark, I should have provided more info on the device.

From the Gyro experiment in my video, it is clear that pitting centrifugal force against the stability of a gyro will produce over ten times the energy it takes to operate the gyro.

The gyro and a weighted lever are combined into a single box that is attached to a wheel by a single bearing pivot point on the wheel. The gyro provides a stationary platform while the weighted lever operates against the gyro to run a generator.

The question then becomes:

By attaching a single black box on a wheel, connected only by a single pivot point, is there any known force that could act against the wheel?

I ask this because the data proves this to be possible. The gain of energy in the black box would require that the energy comes from some source and it would likely be the wheel, but I see no mechanism to resist the rotation of the wheel.


See also the discussion about the so-called Rotoverter Qmogen. Very simple to replicate PM circuit converting energy from an unknnown source, and lighting a bulb.
download: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67378968/rotovert%28Free%20energy%29.mp4


http://www.overunity.com/10825/free-energy-magnet-motor-selfrunning-powering-lightbulb/
Anand Aadhar free energy research pages: http://theorderoftime.com/science/free_energy/index.html

e2matrix

Nice trick .   Light bulb is easy part but I'm impressed with how the motor fake is done.   Probably replaced motors with small DC motors and have a battery and diode setup inside the coil(s).    I wish this was real but I can't believe it for a moment.  I rarely call fake but I'm sure these microwave fan motors can't do what is being shown.   

lumen

Yes, that's what I thought. Very nice.

It would be easy to give all the information on this simple device if it actually worked but then one could duplicate the build and the truth would be known one way or the other, right!


TinselKoala

Of course it's fake. The lightbulb is powering the motors, not the other way around.

Right?

;D ;D ;D ;D

But I am intrigued by lumen's device, as I have an interest in gyroscopes and precession phenomena. I can't quite get the picture from lumen's description, though. Can we see a diagram or even better a video demonstration of lumen's apparatus?


lumen

@TK,

In my first video I was showing how a gyro can support itself against it's driving input of at least 10 times it's own driving force, and is likely more than 100 times staying within a safety margin. The self support is directly dependent on the RPM of the gyro where the drive input is constant minus some air drag.

Now that I know this as fact, I am working on a fully operational device that will acquire energy from somewhere. The device can be built but the energy somewhere is unknown at this point. Once the gyro is connected with a weighted lever as the driving force, the device would become a black box that could be mounted on a larger rotating disk and the weighted arm would supply a driving force into the gyro while the gyro provides it's own counter rotational force. (as I have already shown possible)

The interesting question is the only thing that can keep it from working as designed, would be some force against the larger driving wheel, but because it is connected to the larger wheel by only a single pivot point on the wheel, there is no known means to resist the rotation.

So in fact the gyro will gain energy from the rotating wheel but cannot apply any resistance to counter this rotation.

I tried to change the design several ways to eliminate the need for a gyro, but they all end creating a path for drive resistance. Using the gyro seems to defy the problem and make overunity possible.

In the end it will need to be built to know for sure. At this point I am trying to decide if I want the black box to be fully mechanical or if it should use electrical components to simplify some of the building.

I am leaning a bit to electrical using a generator and tiny drive motor because it offers more control and could already provide the energy to loop the device.
A fully mechanical device would still provide overunity proof but in the end, one would need to attache a generator to supply power to loop the device.

The design is moving forward and I am hoping to solve this soon. If it works, I will build another one to send to you for testing.