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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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MagnaProp

Quote from: Dog-One on October 27, 2015, 07:31:36 PM
... I'm not going to debate electrical and magnetic concepts from this point forward.  I know just enough to finish what Brad started and I'll leave it at that.

Wish me luck or call me an idiot.  I'm not offended either way.
I agree. It can be debated and scrutinized till the cows come home with little or no further progress. TM has paved the way with more than enough info.

I wish you luck!

MileHigh

I can't speak for Picowatt but I believe what he was trying to do was get a clean frequency sweep done so that Brad could be sure that when he tested his device at some standard test frequency he was away from any unloaded self-resonant peaks.   For all we know, the observed output on the open-circuit secondary was because of a self-resonant peak.  I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of everything Brad has done so far.

I was being more of a wildcatter. I was assuming that as long as the test frequency was low enough then you were safely away from a self-resonant peak.  I am willing to bet you the question of self-resonance on the open-circuit inner secondary never even ocurred to Brad.  That's why you should appreciate the "so-called 'smart' people."

If Tinman comes here, then the "real world" includes all manner of people that will make suggestions.  Some people are suggesting "negative resistance" which I think is a crazy thing to say.  Timman tried to make a device to measure the electric field inside a toroid (which the device does not do) and now we have people convinced that it is an over unity device, which I also think is crazy.  So, heaven forbid, Tinman has multiple points of view to consider about his device.  Horror of horrors.

You just can't look at a setup and make up what is taking place so that it fits into your desires and expectations.  Brad molded a funky dual coaxial toroid, with one inside the other.  It's an unusual magnetic circuit, and so far we have no evidence one way or the other if it does anything more unusual than it would be expected to behave.   It often happens that you are surprised by what you observe and then when you dig deeper you realize that there was nothing unusual - it just appeared to be unusual because you didn't understand how it worked.

And you want to paint the guys that want to understand how it works as the bad guys.  There is something seriously wrong with that picture.

Tinman was trying to be cooperative, that is a positive.  Try making a solid technical comment on a Dufo thread and you will get banned in two postings max.  Dufo doesn't want to hear from people that have 20, 30, or 40 years worth of real-world experience.

Jimboot

Quote from: Dog-One on October 27, 2015, 07:31:36 PM
Yes, the HTT is not a device found in commercial applications that I am aware of and regardless of how I or Brad thinks it works, there is something there that needs to be exercised and exploited.  I also highly agree with Vortex1 in putting this device in a loop configuration, though I personally prefer a more obvious approach using a controlled signal input and rectified/filtered output.  My goal is to complete a solid prototype and see if loop operation is possible.  If it is and I can do it, I'll leave it to the eggheads to figure out how it works while I build a thousand more of them.  I'm not going to debate electrical and magnetic concepts from this point forward.  I know just enough to finish what Brad started and I'll leave it at that.

Wish me luck or call me an idiot.  I'm not offended either way.
All the best from a fellow idiot :)

MileHigh

Quote from: Jimboot on October 27, 2015, 07:43:22 PM
geez paranoid much? I certainly didn't think he was referring to anyone. From my point of view it looks as though Brad jumped through everyone's hoops and people still inferring his measurements are wrong somehow? I'm already on a build and I'm sure others are too.  [/size][size=78%]I think a self runner is the only thing that would satisfy this hoax weary audience. [/size]

Know what's even more paranoid?  Believing that there is a "discovery" and that there is "a conspiracy to hijack it."   8) 8) 8)

Jimboot

Quote from: MileHigh on October 27, 2015, 07:57:16 PM
Know what's even more paranoid?  Believing that there is a "discovery" and that there is "a conspiracy to hijack it."   8) 8) 8)
Errr no that is not paranoia