Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[EMJunkie]

Huh?  I was under the impression that we as a team would start building the simple circuit that was presented here:
http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg493565/#msg493565

I build severall versions now with a max efficiency of about 80%.

According to comments that is the bare minimum and there should be room for improvements.

Up till now i have not seen any other results from you guys of this simple circuit so therefor my question  "How are you coming along with your builds / results???"

Regards Itsu

Yes, you're quite right, apologies.

I was merely pointing out that 80% has been well surpassed already:

Still waiting for you guys to surpass my 80% efficiency on the simple circuit we started with.

Also trying to give constructive push for all experimenters, with some observations that will be of use. For if we work blindly, then we are fumbling in the dark.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org


P.S: I did make a suggestion to make use of prior advances I had already made in earlier years: http://overunity.com/15395/partnered-output-coils-free-energy/msg494080/#msg494080

@Partnered Output Coil Research Team (POCRT)

We could start by learning from works of old. The Joule Thief Circuit could be optimised in accordance to works just shown.

The advancements I made with Physics Professor Steven E Jones, replicating his work, we could learn from those works.

Below is a simple Circuit that uses my implementation of the Steven E Jones Circuit with POC's.

There are two implementations of this circuit, one where L2 and L3 could be the same Coil. Thus eliminating one Coil in your device.

Note: I have only one scope, I will be taking measurements separately from Input to Output. If you have Earth leads on both Input Earth and Output Earth at the same time, there is going to be a Ground Loop. So be wary of this possibility.

[wistiti]

Hi guys!

Itsu for me the important point here is to, as a teamwork, to share and improve around the bucking field concept (POC) It is not necessary to stay stick at the first concept. Lostfox already have made great improvement by changing the core configuration, adding ground coil, etc. ...

I have not share so much right now cause i just dont have much spare time to give to it... Im not retired so i work everyday to bring the bread at home

With that said im still working on it in my head and will build it when having the time with the improvement lostfox and other will bring to this community.

Im still hopping other quiet builders (cause im sure there are many) will jump with us when they acheyve something "unusual" with this POC so we can improve the concept together.

Ciao!

[EMJunkie]

Hi guys!

Itsu for me the important point here is to, as a teamwork, to share and improve around the bucking field concept (POC) It is not necessary to stay stick at the first concept. Lostfox already have made great improvement by changing the core configuration, adding ground coil, etc. ...

I have not share so much right now cause i just dont have much spare time to give to it... Im not retired so i work everyday to bring the bread at home

With that said im still working on it in my head and will build it when having the time with the improvement lostfox and other will bring to this community.

Im still hopping other quiet builders (cause im sure there are many) will jump with us when they acheyve something "unusual" with this POC so we can improve the concept together.

Ciao!

Agreed Wistiti, Observe and learn from what's right in front of you, keep trying, keep learning, see what makes it better, like I said, try limiting Input Current, or increasing it.

Add turns to the Coils, or remove some, adjust Frequency...

Again, the rules of Electromagnetic Induction, Time Rate of Change of the Magnetic Field, faster the field more V and therefore I...

Look at the direction of the Currents in the Coils, like I have said many times now, observe the Fields at time t and see what's going on.

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[EMJunkie]

An analogy:

Think of Partnered Output Coils as a Kettle Full of Water.

You can only get X Volume of Water out of the Kettle - The Parameters of Electromagnetic Induction! (Magnetic Field Strength, Time Rate of Change, of it, Turns, Resistance of the Turns and so on...)

If one were to put more water into the Kettle, than one could get out of the kettle, then we see a Leaky Vessel, there is no real use to what we are doing, Water is wasted!

If one were to put a little Water in, then this Volume of Water would be less than we potentially get out of the Kettle. What I mean here, is that you cant over drive this technology, at least as far as I have seen, there are limiting parameters, where the Total Potential output can only be up to a certain value.


   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[l0stf0x]

@ Wistiti, Yeah I understand you!
The free time is a major enemy in what we doing. But You can rely on me and Itsu, specially Itsu with his great experience and great instruments that he has and of course EmJunkie (the knowledge Giant) to en-light and help us.. So don't worry we are a cool team here Take your time

@ Itsu, I will tell you my understandings until now..
At the straight ferrite core, waves from primaries and secondaries are mixed together, no mater how well you will tune it. All the waves travel accross the same pool (a mess of waves). And there is the problem in my opinion, the waves of primaries disturb the natural gain working of POC arangement at secondaries. I have done already more than 6 variations on the straight ferrite core with no good results. In my opinion the straight ferrite core is a waste of time.

I know, building transformers and testing takes much more effort and time than trying different circuits. But as I show at my video this 3 core setup is very easy to make, its easily changeable for testings and is working.
It will be great if you could verify it with your cool instruments


@ Team
I am about to order all materials, parts and modules that I need to make a better POC transformer and be fitted in a closed loop system (using pure sine inverter). I know, you think that its too early to talk about "closed looping", but I believe we are close.

So while I waiting for the parts, I will try to clear up the earth connection (with the same 3 core setup), because this -0.05A is buzzing my mind. What I know for sure is that the voltage in battery go crazy and its impossible to take a measurement. What that means? Maybe AC is trying to bypass the battery? Maybe I need to place a diode or two? Capacitors?

I ll be back.