Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[MileHigh]

Conrad, TK:

Okay, my take on Conrad's measurements.

Analysis at 50 Hz (10 V peak to peak sine wave or AC from the Function Generator):

V1eff = 2.3 V , I1eff = V1eff / R1 = 2.3 / 100 = 23 mA , V2eff = 2.3 V, ϴ= 3°

Watt1 = V2eff * I1eff = 53 mW

Watt2 = V1eff * I1eff = 53 mW

Watt3 = (V2eff - V1eff) * I1eff * cos(ϴ) = ~ 0  mW  (coil H1 has no inductance at 50 Hz, 23 mA, needs more Ampere, output from H2 + H3 through R2 is ~ 0 mW, measurement not shown)

It looks like the reactance of the H1 primary inductance is so low at 50 Hz that it is a "nearly dead short," and the actual impedance of H1 is a combination of the (wire resistance of the coil itself and the very low inductive reactance and the teenie-weenie apparent resistive load on the bucking-coils secondary).   Note we assume that the wire resistance is low, the reactance is low, and the apparent load from the bucking coils is very very low and pretty much insignificant.

So when you compare this impedance at 50 Hz with the 100-ohm R1 resistor, the 100 ohm resistor predominates and almost all of the voltage drop is across R1.   I believe (but I am not sure, would have to be verified) that if you put the load resistor across only one of the bocking coils (switch to conventional step-up transformer) then you would start to see H1 starting to "grab some voltage drop of it's own" as power starts to flow from the primary to the secondary.

So H1's voltage drop is very tiny.  And embedded in the H1 voltage drop is a tiny tiny voltage drop associated with the load.   If the bucking coils were perfectly matched, the "slice" of the voltage drop across H1 would become zero.

If I was on the bench I would run the setup with only one probe channel across H1 directly.   This would minimally disturb the setup and I would want to satisfy my curiosity by looking at the waveform and changing the load or disconnecting the load, changing the frequency, etc.  The assumption is that at 50 Hz you will only see a very low voltage AC waveform across H1

This all illustrates how a "bucking coils transformer" works in the real world, and ignoring all the mumbo-jumbo talk it is just a severely crippled transformer.  Instead of being a 1:3 step-up transformer, in reality it's an inefficient (lots of coil windings doing nothing but resistively burning power) step-down transformer, something like 1:0.03.

I will squeeze in one final comment.  I think Conrad mentioned that the power in the load was measured with the probes on the primary side disconnected.  I view this as a mistake because there is already such a small amount of power flowing through the transformer that the probes, even though they are high impedance, still have the capacity to disturb the low power throughput of the device.   So even if you have to use a multimeter on the load resistor, I would do it like that and leave the probes always connected on the primary side.  This gives you a better chance of having a "level playing field" when comparing power-in and power-out.

MileHigh

[Pirate88179]

Never got the scalar wave deal.  Is it a beaming of a wave? 

In audio, did car audio for 20 yrs,  if the wavelength(or half wave length, have to look that up again) of the output of the driver is smaller than the diameter of the driver ( speaker, tweeter, sub) diaphragm, there is a beaming effect rather than an omnidirectional propagation.  Like around 3khz, the wavelength is around 6in. So if you have a tweeter and mid with 3k input, if you change the distance of the tweeter closer to you in reference to the mid driver, the sound will cancel out. Bring the tweeter 6in closer, 12in in ref to the mid driver, the sound is back in phase.  Can make a system sound bad by putting tweeters high on a door panel if the distance offset is off.  Some guys out there can tell the difference, by listening, of the tweeter is equal distant from the listener, or if it was 12in closer yet still in phase. Odd things happen in that delay around the crossover freq and is detectable by a critical ear.

So the 6in speakers are generally cut off at around 3khz, and say an 8in would be at a lower freq, that is if the company that makes the item cares about those things.

Bah, went off a bit there.

Mags

Mags:

Might that be because high frequency sound waves from the tweeter are directional, and mid range and bass are not?

(Learned that in my acoustics physics class in college)

Bill

[Magluvin]

I tried that one a long time ago, 15 years or more. I even had the motor spinning the magnet assembly on its long axis in one version. This was supposed to influence plant growth, as I recall.

In the example you cite, the xenon flashtube is being flashed by ordinary inductive collapse spikes, nothing more. Xenon is actually highly conductive at low pressures. 

Now, if someone can make the xenon tube flash without it being connected by wires to the coil, just by "beaming the scalar waves" at it ... please let me know right away.

Maybe one could use hall sensors to see if there is a beaming field, or scalar waves?

Mags

[TinselKoala]

As a matter of fact, now that I recall, I even built one of these, back in the day:

http://amasci.com/freenrg/grav3.txt ... Hodowanec's capacitor-based gravity detector

as mentioned in the Bedini link from Synchro. And I even still have it, sitting over there on the shelf!

[TinselKoala]

I will squeeze in one final comment.  I think Conrad mentioned that the power in the load was measured with the probes on the primary side disconnected.  I view this as a mistake because there is already such a small amount of power flowing through the transformer that the probes, even though they are high impedance, still have the capacity to disturb the low power throughput of the device.   So even if you have to use a multimeter on the load resistor, I would do it like that and leave the probes always connected on the primary side.  This gives you a better chance of having a "level playing field" when comparing power-in and power-out.

But the probe references are connected together at the scope chassis, usually. This will cause a connection between the input and output coils that may complicate matters. I think. The only scopes I have ever used that had isolated probe references were the Fluke 123/199 ScopeMeter series. And of course, active differential voltage probes have both leads isolated but I don't think anyone here is using a diff probe.