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Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

Started by EMJunkie, January 16, 2015, 12:08:38 AM

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picowatt

Quote from: tinman on July 17, 2015, 12:54:27 PM
Are you serious PW?. I did my best to keep everything out in the open,so as everyone could see and trace the P/in and P/out wires,and still there are many accusing me of posting fake video's.
Now you want me to cover everything up,and shoot some more test video's showing only the wires from the battery in,and the wires from the unit out? Can you guess what will happen if i do this?.

What i should have done was spent more money,and built the whole thing on a clear plexiglass sheet. But even then,i doubt that this would have swayed the non believers.

Yes, I was indeed serious.  I thought the issue was with regard to TPTB, not public opinion.

Prior to "the event", I was hoping you would take the measurements as far as necessary to eliminate any doubt of their accuracy.

Regarding the "should have done", if TPTB will never allow you to make a dime from this tech, consider where the world might now be had full disclosure been made from the start.

PW


Void

Quote from: MarkE on July 17, 2015, 01:04:55 PM
Play silly games all you like.  You claimed that TK or my treating CoE as law is blind faith.  I will not sugar coat what a phenomenally stupid claim that is.LOL, sure, you simply assert that taking First Principles as fact is a matter of blind faith.  As I said, you can play silly games all you like.TK did not say anything about COP.  TK discussed energy out versus energy in.Keep working your COP based strawman if that entertains you.  TK has not discussed COP and neither have I.

That is quite a distortion. ;) I said that if someone claims that they 'know' that some circuit could
not possibly be putting out more power than is being input into the system from the power source, without
having a good reason for concluding that, then that would be a matter of blind faith. MarkE, it's OK. I understand why
you are behaving and responding the way you are to my question to TK. People often behave the way you are behaving when
they have beliefs on the line. For many people it is not enough that they just have their beliefs, and all is fine if
something comes along that they feel is a challenge to beliefs that they hold as very important. It is human nature
and quite common for people to feel a strong need to 'defend their beliefs', and therefore fairly common place for
people to start behaving as you are doing here, claiming I said or implied things which I clearly didn't, and making derogatory
comments and that sort of thing out of desperation. As I have already pointed out, I only said the measurements look fine to me
based on what can be seen in the videos and what info we have, but that there could be some explanation for this based on something
we don't know about the setup, and I asked TK what his reason was for saying he knows that this is not more power out than what is being
supplied by the battery. All the rest of whatever you are going on about in regards to me supposedly implying that this is necessarily a violation
of conservation of energy and that sort of thing is strictly a figment of your imagination. Get a grip mate. ;)

If Tinman's setup really is giving more power out to the load than the battery is supplying as his measurements have suggested, then it would seem
the gain in energy would certainly be coming from somewhere. If the measurements are solid and there is not some other explanation for the
measurement results based on things we can't see in the video, then the increase in energy at the output would be something
that needs to be investigated further. All pretty simple and straightforward and pretty reasonable as far as I can tell. Nothing to get worked up
about at all mate. ;)


Groundloop

I have decided to open source the attached circuit because I think it is relevant
to the discussion in this thread. I have modified my old Figure-8 circuit with a
shorting coil on the output. My shorting coil is shorted by a transistor. The shorting
is 180 degrees out of faze with the input oscillator. I have not done any output
measurements on this circuit, and will probably never do. One thing is for sure,
the 3,5 Watt LED bulb on the output is very bright with only approx. 0,3 Watt input
to the circuit. Circuit runs on 3 Volt input.

GL.

MarkE

Quote from: Void on July 17, 2015, 01:38:15 PM
That is quite a distortion. ;) I said that if someone claims that they 'know' that some circuit could
not possibly be putting out more power than is being input into the system from the power source, without
having a good reason for concluding that, than that would be a matter of blind faith.
LOL, really?  Let's see your quote.
Quote
MarkE, it's OK. I understand why you are behaving and responding the way you are to my question to TK. People often behave the way you are behaving when
they have beliefs on the line.
LOL, there you go again.  No, CoE is not on the line.  If you think that it is, then I have many investment opportunities that you might wish to discuss.
QuoteFor many people it is not enough that they jsut have their beliefs, and all is fine if
something comes along that they feel is a challenge to beliefs that they hold as very important. It is human nature
and quite common for people to feel a strong need to 'defend their beliefs', and therefore fairly common place for
people to start behaving as you are doing here, claiming I said or implied things which I clearly didn't, and making derogatory
comments and that sort of thing out of desperation.
LOL, well you can believe any fantasies that you like.
QuoteAs I have already pointed out, I only said the measurements look fine to me
based on what can be seen in the videos and what info we have, but that there could be some explanation for this based on seomthing
we don't know about the setup, and I asked TK what his reason was for saying he knows that this is not more power out than what is being
supplied by the battery.
LOL, back to "third base".  He knows, because of the massive evidence that supports CoE.
QuoteAll the rest of whatever you are going on about in regards to me supposedly implying that this is necessarily a violation
of conservation of energy and that sort of thing is strictly a figment of your imagination. Get a grip mate. ;)
Maybe you need to review what CoE states.
Quote

If Tinman's setup really is giving more power out to the load than the battery is supplying as his measurements have suggsted, then it would seem
the gain in energy would certainly be coming from somewhere. If the measurements are solid and there is not some other explanation for the
measurement results based on things we can't see in the video, then the increase in energy at the output would be something
that needs to be investigated further. All pretty simple and straightforward and pretty reasonable as far as I can tell.
The system is represented as having one energy source and with measurements that appear to show continuous load power that exceeds the measured continuous input power.  Were what is represented and appears all to be true, it would require a violation of CoE.  Existence of an energy source other than the battery would violate the combined representation and appearance in support of TK's position.
QuoteNothing to get worked up
about at all mate. ;)
No, there isn't anything to get worked up about at all.  An incomplete set of data has a curious appearance.  TK knows that it is the appearance that is wrong based on rock solid evidence.  You laughingly declare what he knows to be "blind faith". 

Spilled Fluids

Quote from: Groundloop on July 17, 2015, 01:43:59 PM
I have decided to open source the attached circuit because I think it is relevant
to the discussion in this thread. I have modified my old Figure-8 circuit with a
shorting coil on the output. My shorting coil is shorted by a transistor. The shorting
is 180 degrees out of faze with the input oscillator. I have not done any output
measurements on this circuit, and will probably never do. One thing is for sure,
the 3,5 Watt LED bulb on the output is very bright with only approx. 0,3 Watt input
to the circuit. Circuit runs on 3 Volt input.

GL.

Without taking proper measurements of the input and the output, you have no idea if there is greater output than input.
Bulb ratings mean nothing other than those are the maximum recommended ratings.
Your own pictures demonstrate that the LED will light up at less than it's full rating.

Please take some good measurements of the output.