Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

[d3x0r]

Falstad Sim

I don't understand why the current is running backwards through the diodes though... with switches all open there shouldn't be current flow... I guess because it's floating it drifts to one side, gets charge, which equates the volaage to the other side which lets it conduct that side ...

This requires the common to the coil to have a voltage lower than max and higher than min.... so when driving one side or the other it won't get as much current because not as much voltage differential.

[dole]

Hi,
I hope this will not make more confusion, I would suggest little bit different approach.
I will list just few as "statements" and apologize for not giving explanation and showing any proof.
-   There are only 3 poles "rotating" sliding back and forth with delay,
-   3 strong south poles, equally spaced so weak north will be generated naturally in-between.(choosing N or S, it myth depending on where you live)
-   All diodes are only connected to +
-   Timing is critical for each coil as S pole and new moved S pole mast be tuned in fashion long-short (depending on rotation/field speed and N pull, one will be stronger)
-   This way it will be strong and as equally as possible magnetic movement.
-   When this is done there will be almost no consumption or minimal energy requirement and strong moving/sliding magnetic field.
-   Magnetic field will not change direction, just placement; therefore output coil must be double wind in cw, ccw fashion.
(BTW "rotating" magnet test (SN-NS or NS-SN) is important, try it with your core)

Now all this looks like very, very crazy and complete nonsense, so please just ignore it.

Thanks, very respectfully
 
d.

[d3x0r]

https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/direct-current/chpt-15/series-and-parallel-inductors/


L_t = 1 / ( 1 / L₁) + 1/L₂ )


if I use xH has the L1 and L2, then Lt = 1/(2/x) = x/2 ?


How is that possible when it's generating 2x the magnetic field?  (1 from the one coil, plus 1 from the other inductor) each having the same current...   And if they were on the same core?  Mutual induction can further decrease the inductive reactance... giving a higher rate of flux change.



the same current is going through them as a single (actually 2x total)


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An alternator is the same thing.  energized windings on the outside, and a rotating inner part; the force of rotating the alternator is greater the more charge is required...
So if the alternator is instead rewired with many coils, and those coils progressively drag a mangetic field across the stator; how does the physical drag of rotation manifest? 
The coils most engaged with the core have a higher inductance; which is a longer time to have to apply current ... though I wonder; for the area under the curve, a longer time at a lower current is also lower power for a longer time... so it's not exactly like the drag of an alternator's cogging.


H    parallel    series   (shared core)
16 15.63ms  33s
1   1ms       2.08s
0.5  487us   1s

all seem to be 2000x different.  was (hoping) that a higher mutual inductance would charge relatively faster in parallel than series too; but seems linear time vs inductance.

Inductance relates to the reactance?  not that size/strength of the field generated?

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Edit:
I was pacing; and figured out I could grab a yoke and wind 3 windings on it; and test series/parallel-ness myself...
I realized Opposite poles are actually the same current direction; so mutual induction does not help....

but I wound quad-filar 32 turns each coil; and put all filaments in series. 
so for output vs input; I have 2x coils on the input and 1 on the out; as a transformer this should be a step-down function.  But, with my signal generator +/-3V; (and coils in parallel) can get +/-5V output.    putting the coils in series I do get a step down...
so I suppose the parallel inductance does make it 1/2 ... so it's a step-up transformer then.

[onielsen]

Hi d3x0r,

How is that possible when it's generating 2x the magnetic field?

It isn't. The formulas for series and parallel coils are for coils not sharing their magnetic fields. When sharing the fields the resultant field is either reinforced or weakened. When reinforced the field becomes coherent which makes the inductance increase by the square to the number of turns. The stored energy at the same current is likewise increased by the square. E.g. doubling the number of turns quadruples the inductance and the stored energy at the same current.

According to the principle of inversion (given by Wilbert B. Smith in 'The New Science') this is a way to take energy out of the cosmic background. This is done by harvesting the difference in energy levels from two fields before and after becoming coherent.

Citing from chapter 10 in Smiths book (https://www.wanttoknow.info/energy/wilbur_smith_new_science):

...There is a very interesting factor which enters the picture at this point called the Principle of Inversion.

If a region is selected in which there are two fields of the same kind, same magnitude and same direction, such that very nearly half the Reality of each is within the region, then the two fields are just on the edge of becoming coherent. If the fields are not coherent the total energy in the region is the sum of the energies of the two fields, i.e., twice the square of the field intensity of each integrated over the region. If, however, the fields are coherent, the total energy is the square of twice the field intensity integrated over the region, or twice the energy of the two fields incoherent! This relationship is most significant as it represents the "packing energy" of the bits and pieces in atomic nuclei, and also points the way to the precipitation of energy out of the cosmic background.

The difference in energy between the fields from being separate to sharing the same space is how to liberate free energy.

Regards
Ole

[T-1000]

I was pacing; and figured out I could grab a yoke and wind 3 windings on it; and test series/parallel-ness myself...
I realized Opposite poles are actually the same current direction; so mutual induction does not help....
pose the parallel inductance does make it 1/2 ... so it's a step-up transformer then.

In theory it also can be done with ferrite cores but the arrangement need to be kept like in original Pierre's design to have approximation of magnetic field behavior in the center. And there is limitation about size because smaller it gets more meshed magnetic fields become between themselves on the core.

And as parts are slowly arriving to my place I am still also looking for ways how I could get one of 20-30cm diameter motor stator cores with winding fittings towards center and to the outside. So I can make windings in same fashion Pierre had. Any suggestions which ones are available to buy?

Cheers!