Pierre's 170W in 1600W out Looped Very impressive Build continued & moderated

[pmgr]

Je sais que vous avez tous hâte d'avoir les détail du dz générateur mais pour l'instant j'aime mieux mettre mes efforts sur un deuxième prototype que passer mes soirée a répondre au question  cela n'est pas trop productif quand ce seras fait il me feras plaisir de tout vous expliquer en détail mais en attendant je continue à suivre vos idée et vos commentaire durant mes pause au travail et j'espère vous en mettre plein la vue avec la deuxième version du dz générateur mais je peut vous dite que cela prendras plusieurs mois a faire car il y a beaucoup de travail  avant que ce ne soit fonctionnel merci a tous de votre compréhension .            Pierre cotnoir

En. I know you're all looking forward to the details of the dz generator but for now I prefer to put my efforts in building the second prototype than to spend my evening answering questions, that wouldn't be productive. When I have it done I'll be happy to explain everything in detail but in the meantime I'll continue to follow your ideas and comments during my breaks at work and I hope you will be amazed with the second version of the dz generator but I can tell you it will take several months to complete because there's a lot of work to be done before it's functional.
Thank you all for your understanding. 
Pierre Cotnoir

Wish you would make videos again and a step-by-step build guide.         Fr. Je souhaite que vous fassiez à nouveau des vidéos et un guide de construction étape par étape.

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[T-1000]

Je sais que vous avez tous hâte d'avoir les détail du dz générateur mais pour l'instant j'aime mieux mettre mes efforts sur un deuxième prototype que passer mes soirée a répondre au question  cela n'est pas trop productif quand ce seras fait il me feras plaisir de tout vous expliquer en détail mais en attendant je continue à suivre vos idée et vos commentaire durant mes pause au travail et j'espère vous en mettre plein la vue avec la deuxième version du dz générateur mais je peut vous dite que cela prendras plusieurs mois a faire car il y a beaucoup de travail  avant que ce ne soit fonctionnel merci a tous de votre compréhension .            Pierre cotnoir

Hi Pierre,

As you are doing second prototype maybe you could help and answer one main question?
When you activate 1 coil, the opposite current flow over rest of 35 coils is requirement for effect to happen or not wanted? That dictates electronics circuit design and coils driving.
Please see my picture attached with 4 coils test and 1st coil activated.

P.S> The opposite current flow creates bucking magnetic fields which cancel out each other. And I have impression most of guys here have that exact problem.

Cheers!

[jerdee]

So far a 6 field 30 pole rotational system for recovery requires. (see sche).  The off state always recovers the negative diode in a boost circuit config.  Pierre posts a boost circuit in his post.  This has to be important.

I'm not understanding Pierre's recovery and source input.  He shows in his vids, the ability to charge caps and recover on the same bank without an additional switch to return the recover to the source. This doesn't make sense.

I'm studying the recovery from the series inductors.

Hopefully this helps,

Jerdee

[listener192]

Hi Jerdee,
I am close to running my setup and one of the first tests will be to look at the current recovery through these diodes with a current clamp.
Regards
L192

[jerdee]

Strength of the fields is only one of the keys. However, just a strong rotational field is NOT going to give you OU. We have to study A/C generator basics.  The rotational field is only one part of the equation.


Pierre vids only show relays not using double throw. Look closely, ground is skipping on the even relays, while positive skips on the odds.  So he is only using one direction.  If Pierre is looking for more room for improvment in rotating the field, he needs to use H-bridges.  By allowing the positive/negative rail to flip, you can double the amount of current field strength.  Look at sche again, and compare to Pierre's.  Pierre is only doing ONE DIRECTION of CURRENT in his relays.  So, using both sides of an H-bridge is an improvement for sure, but is it diverging to far from Pierre's original design?  I  don't think so, you still can use a boost converter design with diodes to recover with polarity flipping on your H-bridges. A boost coverter does not care about your H-bridge's direction. You can recover in either direction.  So you improve the field strength, you get more current into the fields, you still maintain rotation of the fields and you can recover the inductive charge in both directions.  So why wouldn't this improvement NOT be a benefit for Pierre?


I just keep racking my brain on how he is feeding DC into his cap bank and recovery from the coils to the same cap bank.  Anyone that knows how to deal with coil recovery, knows this can't be done, UNLESS you have an additional switch.  Could this be why he left pin37 in his code (has no LED blinking) with an additional transistor?  It's very possible.  Please keep in mind that his original code had a full off position at the end of the loop.  I've already proven this with audio examples as well.  Go back to my posts.  BTW, you have to nudge the audio earlier to line up with the lights, sound takes longer to travel than light when recorded.   So it is very possible that this off state of all of his relays are the extra step to RETURN the boost cap back to the a source cap bank.  Then the question becomes, WHERE IS HIS EXTRA RELAY?  You won't find it in his vids.  I'm left thinking that the off state at the end of his code explains his return current.  Review sche below.


One final thought, his current limiting resistor gets very hot, and mentions replacing it in his video.  If he is not using any additional switch for recovery, this explains why his current limiting resistor get very hot. Could this be our explanation we are looking for?  With no 37th switch/relay for recovery, forces him to tie source and recovery together but separated by the current limiting resistor.   Maybe the current limiting resistor plays a much bigger role than we think?  This could explain his source current, can't go through the current limiting resistor quick enough, and yet, his recovery has NO current limiting applied.  Seems like a very odd way to deal with recovery.  Am I wrong?  This form of diversion explains why he is generating large amounts of heat.

Hopfully this all makes sense and why we need to understand how he is returning the inductive charge back to the source caps.


Jerdee