Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[stivep]

Note: related to my comment  from above.at the test in Trojmiasto
- Test B- didn't try yet voice communication "A to B" nor video "A to B."
- no modulated carrier was ever tested by me yet,  that is
of  course if we exclude High Energy Pulse after "A to B" is established.
But that is easy.  It is  not really high energy but  the short time condensed
impulse that could come from regular 12V/15AH bat  similar to  the one  created in radar.
https://www.atlantis-press.com/article/25848415.pdf

The pulse generating circuit which can generate the pulse signal with the frequency 22.5kHz, the period 44.4s and the pulse width of 19.5s

However, the impulse   created was many times shorter and by that more powerful. 
HV come from the secondary of the Tesla air transformer.
Actually once H2O is affected the length of the impulse is not important any longer. 
The goal is to satisfy the H2O process described above. 
Frequency applied  to DUT doesn't apply to the entire structure of the load,- instead   
only its resonating part becomes a load. But then the Rx impedance match becomes critical. 
So very large DUT are quite good. 
The procedure  requires quite fast scanning.
It is normal that  seen resonance is not present in the next scan 
So impulse injection  needs to be done immediately when Resonating Load Condition is  established. 
Note: 50 ohm is no longer impedance standard for "A to B" so transmatch or automatic transmatch  is required at Tx site.

Test B: floating  base with no crew  .
Means of documenting  were established with traditional wireless methods.
one "in the air " in close vicinity but not too close .
( limitation: only 45 minutes from start to end of documenting time frame with resolution of 4k)
and  second  at 2m band.
Resonating Load  DUT disintegrated quite rapidly ,along with entire floating test base
as result of the process involving H2O in the right proportion.
_{opinion expressed is my own}
Wesley

[stivep]

Basis we can discuss freely in the article many of you missed to read.
I repeat it again:
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau
Let me know it it doesn't open for you.

You do not need to be physicist to read:

Twin City Mining Research Center noticed that the energy output was apparently 156% of the input.

This translates to  simple enough for an average reader analogy
$100 in every 0.01s turns into $156
- loss= +56 per 0.01s
But that was only preliminary reading scientists didn't have explanation of.
There is much much more in the article.
Wesley

[kolbacict]

Wesley, please act as a moderator.

Yes. flood is not very well. I agree.
But is it much more better when after some time the topics simply had gone into oblivion ?
How did we get excited about Zografos, and where is it now? Or about Kapanadze's green box, just recently.And so on everywhere, no result.
p.s.
By the way, the mouse promised me a translation of this picture, his version. But so far there is silence.

Let me know it it doesn't open for you.

I have the second link, but not the first.

[Sergh]

Wesley, thank you for reminding about the link:
N. Graneau "THE ANOMALOUS STRENGTH OF COLD FOG EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY HIGH CURRENT WATER ARCS"
This direction was previously interesting. But during the experiments there were no noticeable successes.

Okay, comments to this article:

Not until the mid-1980s was the scientific basis of the puzzling explosions more extensively researched.
At MIT [6,7]. It was shown that the discharge of 3.6 kJ of stored capacitor energy would create pressures in excess of 20,000 atm. in 7 ml of water. 3.6 gm of water was ejected from an accelerator barrel at a velocity of the order of 1000 m/s, sufficient to penetrate a 1/4" thick aluminium plate [8].

A lot of energy was used. The result is not impressive. A bullet from a Kalashnikov assault rifle with approximately the same shot energy pierces through a railway rail. But it's 1/2 inch steel, not 1/4" aluminum..

If an electric arc is formed in the discharge gap from a high current, the magnetic field will push this arc out of the discharge gap. Such an arc can extend to the side by several centimeters. The same principle as a railgun,

but instead of rails and a projectile, an arc plasma conductor is used. If this plasma arc tongue touches any metal surface, the entire arc current will flow through that metal. Thus, this plasma tongue can lick the foil to holes if it reaches it.

Theoretical Understanding
The most likely explanation of the fog explosions is that they are caused by the liberation of intermolecular bonding energy when the bulk water is transformed into tiny fog droplets. This bonding is caused both by hydrogen bonds and Van der Waals forces, and the energy stored by the bonds is roughly equal to the latent heat of the water,
and is found to be 2.3 kJ/gm at room temperature. The creation of a large number of droplets is thought to be caused by the mechanical effects of the electrodynamic forces in the arc discharge. A certain amount of mechanical energy is thus used to create the droplets and is consequently stored as surface tension energy.

- So far this is just energy consumption.

However the molecules in the small droplets now have significantly fewer neighbours than in the bulk water and can thus reorientate themselves more easily into lower energy states. These lower energies imply that the bonds become stronger. This bond redistribution behaviour is normally observed in thin films of water called vicinal water. Recent results of inelastic incoherent neutron scattering (DNS) experiments in water and ice [10] have revealed the existence of two strengths of hydrogen bond. In water they are found to have bonding vibrational force constants of 24 and 32 meV, and are referred to as the weak and strong bonds respectively.

- It's better here. Graneau suggests that water in the form of very small drops becomes "more dense" and because of this energy is released. If you grind water, then in a microscopic drop the water will go into a more dense form and because of this energy will be released.
But.. There are such devices, ultrasonic humidifiers, or water atomizers. The piezoceramic plate oscillates with a frequency of 1 - 2 Megahertz. These high-frequency vibrations are transmitted to the water and because of this, very small droplets of water break off from the surface of the water in the form of mist. You are probably familiar with such devices. Cold "steam" and fog come out of them.
But for some reason, no additional energy is obtained from the "compacted water" in them, all parts are relatively cold, nothing unusual happens.

If in die newly formed droplet, some of the weak bonds drop to the strong bond energy in a quantum shift, there will be a consequent release of kinetic energy causing the vicinal droplets to repel each other, resulting in the observed explosion.

Somehow doubtful. Some kind of chain reaction. Drops in which the water has not passed into a more dense form must therefore pass into a more dense form of water and also release energy. "Quantum Shift". In lasers, when electrons move between energy levels, coherent energy is released in the form of photons. And here in the form of what? In the form of vibration of drops.? Sound laser powered by water drops...

After the explosion, in order to restore the droplets to their normal bulk state, some energy input must be required, and in our case this must come from atmospheric heat. This process can occur away from the explosion region and over a much longer time. Therefore the explosion is conjectured to be a sudden release of energy from the water that was initially stored by atmospheric heating, and is later restored into the water after the explosion also by atmospheric heat, while in the meantime the net gain in kinetic energy can be harnessed for useful means.

This means that the reacted water becomes unsuitable for reuse. Water needs some time to recover, to break the tight hydrogen bonds under the influence of the heat of solar radiation. But then why can't these tight bonds break during the discharge, which creates massive collisions of water, which is the same heat? There is an inconsistency in the author's reasoning. Illogical, makes me doubt it.

Regardless of the correctness of Graneau's theoretical justification, this is interesting. Wesley, do you remember I gave a link to the American inventors of the water motor? Where a thin stream of water from a nozzle under very high pressure of about 1000 atmospheres was broken against a specially shaped barrier? Because of this, the water became very hot and evaporated. They had a working prototype of the motor on video. I think this motor could use a similar process. Have you tried to contact them?

Let's return to Graneau's article. These are the articles he refers to that I have long wanted to read, but could not find anywhere on the Internet:

[2] Früngel F., "Zum mechanischen Wirkungsgrad von Flussigkeitsfimken", Optik, 3, p.125, (1948)

[4] Früngel F., High speed pulse technology, Vol.2, Academic Press, New York, 1965

The reference to [4] was mentioned somewhere in the context of Edwin Gray's devices.
About Früngel, Frank, Dr.-Ing., Hamburg:
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE2057736B2/en

[Sergh]

How did we get excited about Zografos, and where is it now? Or about Kapanadze's green box, just recently.And so on everywhere, no result.

Yeah... You were shown some kind of sausage on video, and you need to restore the animal from which this sausage was made. (It's a joke.)

It's hard, but we're trying to move forward somehow.

By the way, the mouse promised me a translation of this picture, his version. But so far there is silence.

Ask him again, maybe the message was not delivered for some reason.

The link from Wesley message:
N. Graneau "THE ANOMALOUS STRENGTH OF COLD FOG EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY HIGH CURRENT WATER ARCS"