Perpetual motion based V track or V gate 3

[Turbo]

Yes if fly6 was shown an overtunity device he would pull up Wikipedia to show everyone why it can not work hahahahaha

[F6FLT]

It's just so sad man.
Even if someone would show you a self runner and explain to you how it operates.
You would still explain it away because of your mental references that tell you its this or that and it can't work because of this and that and its sad to see people stuck.
But it is what it is you will never escape it I can yell you that much.

Well, you should build your own runner and show it to us, instead of producing childish images without schematics, punctuated by pretentious remarks like "it can open the mind", when they are only basic conventional things whose functioning has been understood by everyone for a long time, as well as the uselessness regarding energy.
"it can open the mind"!    , the mind of a donkey, perhaps.

[Turbo]

You should is a command.
You do not command people you command dogs.
I am not your dog.

In stead you could build one of them.
Could is different from should.
I have gotten feedback from the people that tried.
They will take it further.
I don't count on you.
You are just a keyboard troll.

[F6FLT]

You should is a command.
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Only in your fallacious interpretations as inconsistent as those you shown in physics.
It's conditional, a polite advice.

[Low-Q]

Hi Vidar,

The thing I agree with you is that the setup should be built to see how it behaves. 
During the tests the weight should be changed to find the best match to the spring force at a certain RPM.  You do not want to use too heavy weight or too mild spring and / or the other way round.  Also, the RPM of the wheel should also be choosen not to let the spring being fully pressed when the weight just passes at the 6 o'clock position. 
And as I see this (and assuming the setup would at least self run under a no load condition), the useful shaft torque (the output) would be within a relatively narrow range (and I do not mean this a drawback).  Maximum shaft torque would be mainly defined by the magnets strength used in the V gate.
Gyula

You say "narrow range", which means this setup works best at a given resonance. The narrower the range, the higher Q-factor. However, any load to such a system will reduce the Q-factor, and therefor restrict the "willingness" of resonance. So the system will stop sooner.
That said, any resonance system suffers from loss. Even if the external load is zero, you have internal loss that will restrict resonance, so it will stop anyway.
Further, if you need a spring and a weight to assist a V-gate, note that none of these systems, nor a resonance system og a V-gate system works separately. So my question to you is; how can two non workable systems work when you combine them?
Because the resonance system cannot assist the V-gate, and the V-gate cannot assist the resonance system.
Well, that's my thoughts :-)


Vidar