All Permanent Magnet Motor

[magnetman12003]

I plan to do just as you say. The bolt angle has to be at 45 degrees or close to it as I am finding out.
Also the threaded bolt MUST touch the 45 degree mounted magnet and have the weight of the bolt on it to insure setup spin. I will have to notch out my tumblers bottoms  to allow the touch to happen.
It also looks like i might have to drill a hole in the side of the tumbler so I can set the bolt angle at or near 45 degrees.  Will let everyone know when finished.
Tom

I am having tumbler trouble so I will go to plan B.  Since Overhead finger holding the top end of the threaded bolt works while the bottom of the bolt is resting on the 45 degree magnet another thought occurred.
Why not use a overhead sling affair and come in holding the top of the threaded bolt from above - with fingers not needed. I have started to make that already and it shows great promise.
More work to do yet to insure that the threaded bolt top is physically secured to the rubber O ring you see in the photo.  The O ring is the sling.
Tom

[synchro1]

Rubber bands and craft sticks can be used to create any kind of problem solution.

[gyulasun]

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I am having tumbler trouble so I will go to plan B.  Since Overhead finger holding the top end of the threaded bolt works while the bottom of the bolt is resting on the 45 degree magnet another thought occurred.
Why not use a overhead sling affair and come in holding the top of the threaded bolt from above - with fingers not needed. I have started to make that already and it shows great promise.
More work to do yet to insure that the threaded bolt top is physically secured to the rubber O ring you see in the photo.  The O ring is the sling.
Tom

Hi Tom,
I agree, your approach shown is a good one to get rid any hand activity that may give any input energy to the setup.

When I wrote my previous post to you, I prepared this text too but did not post because you reported to receive the tumblers. Now I include that text and attach an earlier picture of yours I edited to show how you could get rid of using your hand.
"I would like to suggest the following: 
Please fasten a kinda crossbar onto the top part of shaft as I show it in the picture below. The bar could be made from any rigid material, its task  would be to keep the bolt at the needed 45 degree position by a piece of thread. This way you do not need to hold the bolt by your hand  any more: you gently let the bolt fall towards the 45 degree final position from its vertical position. This small pushing force that the tilting bolt  gives to the rotor would surely start the rotor. 
From this test, you could clearly see how long the rotor will be able to rotate from that pushing force. " 

So you use a piece of thread just long enogh to hold the bolt at the needed 45° angle while hanging its top part from the bar's end.  And then you could let the bolt fall from its vertical position into the needed direction (when the rotor is at a stand still) to arrive at its final 45° position and see how long the rotor would rotate from this falling bolt+lead weigth impact onto the rotor.  If one bolt is not enough then use two at 180° apart from each other.

Good luck, 
Gyula

[synchro1]

Just brace the bolt between two upright craft sticks and bind them with a rubber band like below.

[conradelektro]

Here is a video of the motor turning folks.
Shown a little out of focus to hide important parts.
More to come later on  in focus.
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Tom (magnetmann12003), why don't you admit that the video was not exactly reality but more hope or idea (or a push by hand)?

It is fine to go overboard with an idea and to hope for the impossible a bit too much. But you should tell us the truth. It was amusing, but the fun is over by now, it has become a drag.

Greetings, Conrad