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Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world

Started by ramset, March 14, 2022, 11:07:24 AM

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rakarskiy

Quote from: listener192 on August 12, 2023, 05:02:52 PM

That is pure speculation.


Do you have specific evidence to support this?


L192

Quote from the article that is attached (in Russian)

"The idea of coils and a rotating magnet belongs to an inventor who sent a letter to Faraday signed with the Latin initials P. M. The probable name of the inventor - Frederick Mc-Clintock - remained unknown for a long time.  Faraday promptly published the letter in a scientific journal. However, this device generated alternating current, whereas at the beginning of the 19th century only direct current was used.  Pixie, on the advice of Ampere, fitted it with a brush commutator. "

It is very possible that I am wrong, it is enough to find Faraday's publications in 1831 about the phenomenon of EMF and the publication of P.M.'s first letter, in the same year 1931 with the question about the details of his idea.
I'm always interested in the authors of ideas, not the makers. Figuer didn't build anything, he is the author of the idea, Figuer's generator was built by his mechanic, and so on.

kolbacict

Quote from: kolbacict on August 12, 2023, 01:16:06 PM
I am afraid to assume that the initials on that letter were not P.M., but S.R.   :)
:D
S.R. I mean Sergey Rakarsky.  :)
No offend.
p.s.
Somewhy everyone forgot about Boris Yakoby,who built electromotor in 1834.

listener192

On page 187 of the Irish quarterly review article, Professor Mac Laughlin also refers to the possibility of P.M. being a Dr Patrick Murphy.
Generally we can't assume this an authoritive document as there are too many unsubstantiated statements.


Pixii's device was a spinning magnet, operated by a hand crank, where the north and south poles passed over a coil with an iron core. Hence this first iteration was an AC generator, subsequently fitted with a commutator to produce DC hence making it useable for practical purposes at that time.


Your statement "The idea of coils and a rotating magnet belongs to an inventor who sent a letter to Faraday signed with the Latin initials P. M." is not substantiated, as many historical documents refer to Pixii having that privilage.


As for Faraday not understanding his invention, I refer you to the Royal Society page below


https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsta.2014.0208


Faradays lab notes from just before his 1832 paper was published, depict the correct mutual orthogonality of electricity, magnetism and motion.

So I don't believe you "may be wrong" in your assertations, in the case of Faraday understanding his invention, you are wrong.

L192

rakarskiy

Quote from: listener192 on August 13, 2023, 03:17:02 AM
On page 187 of the Irish quarterly review article, Professor Mac Laughlin also refers to the possibility of P.M. being a Dr Patrick Murphy.
Generally we can't assume this an authoritive document as there are too many unsubstantiated statements.


Pixii's device was a spinning magnet, operated by a hand crank, where the north and south poles passed over a coil with an iron core. Hence this first iteration was an AC generator, subsequently fitted with a commutator to produce DC hence making it useable for practical purposes at that time.


Your statement "The idea of coils and a rotating magnet belongs to an inventor who sent a letter to Faraday signed with the Latin initials P. M." is not substantiated, as many historical documents refer to Pixii having that privilage.


L192

I refer to the publication (I do not remember the author), which I read, where the algorithm was traced in the way that I am presenting. The truth can be established only by finding the first publication by Faraday (1931), the letter of an unknown person with the idea of the generator, on which he asked the author for explanations. I am satisfied with everything, as this chronology is logical. And then already on the basis of the idea there were Pixie, Jacobi and others.

listener192

Quote from: rakarskiy on August 13, 2023, 03:33:36 AM
I refer to the publication (I do not remember the author), which I read, where the algorithm was traced in the way that I am presenting. The truth can be established only by finding the first publication by Faraday (1931), the letter of an unknown person with the idea of the generator, on which he asked the author for explanations. I am satisfied with everything, as this chronology is logical. And then already on the basis of the idea there were Pixie, Jacobi and others.


The letter of the unknown person P.M. Faraday received, was after his paper in March 1832. P.M. even refers to reading Faraday's paper.


So you are now relying on yet another individual (author) who's name you don't know and who's publication you dont have!


Really!


L192