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Overunity Machines Forum



Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

Started by hartiberlin, February 14, 2007, 08:30:03 PM

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Rosphere

Quote from: AhuraMazda on February 15, 2007, 11:02:42 PM
@All,

According to http://solid-state-relay.crouzet-usa.com/
Crouzet part, GN-84131100
is replaced by 84137100

Let me introduce my friend: google!

AM

Ah, very nice.  Thank you.  Let us now hope that interchangeability is not affected; will this replacement part work equally well?

I suppose it would be rude to ask Mike to try this replacement part.  So, I will purchase one and slap it on my,... well, I guess I will need to build the rest of the motor from the ground up before I can try it out.

But I might accidentally introduce a random design variable or two.  If my replication does not work then do I blame the replacement part or do I blame something else?

Stefan, the other three at gnosis you mentioned earlier, do any of them plan to use this replacement part found by AhuraMazda, or some other part?

Rosphere

Quote from: hydrocontrol on February 16, 2007, 02:54:23 AM
I do not need scope shots of this or that. I do not need him to try reed switchs or other setups. These things I can do when I have one running. I just want to duplicate what he has first then we all can figure out how it works later..

I agree.

DMBoss

Quote from: hartiberlin on February 16, 2007, 06:41:32 AM
Hi DMBoss,
I know from former communication with you,
that you are a real expert and it is nice to see,
that you have these great measurement equipment and setups
and can tell us some real insights into the theory also.

Maybe you can try to replicate the Mike setup much more quickly
than others can do this over here.

It seems Mike?s setup is a Motor/Generator all in one device.
It also seems, that his main coil has more windings than the other 2
coils seems to be important , so the counter EMF is maybe suppressed
at the right moments...and the rotor so can freely move on or
gets a push forward...

Please post more of your insights, when you have the time to do so.
Many thanks in advance and please let?s crack the theory behind this
Mike motor together by brainstorming.

I hope Mike will soon post more scopeshots, so we
can compare it with your results.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan:

My results use a much different geometry at present.  And there may indeed be some "quantum" level interaction with the actual transistors here, which my controller can not duplicate.

But the root details of the material, geometry, coil parameters are of utmost importance no matter what manner of control is used.

As to insights into the underlying principles - I am limited due to some proprietary concerns in what I can share.  Besides I do not believe that "freely sharing" info is the best way to get this technology to the masses.  I have proven on the bench that 100 year old patents work, and are over unity.  A patent is the most public of documents, in a standardized format so it can be replicated.  If literally hundreds of such "free sharing" occurrances to date has not done anything then sharing alone will not do the job!

Something useful has to be marketed to the massed to convince them, and to challenge the dogma of science to get off their programmed doctrine.  We know they will simply ignore, debunk with lies, or dismiss published accounts of O/U.  But a device that works, sold to millions of people, and they [acedemics] can no longer ignore it.

Recall pundits scribbled equations on blackboards for months after the Wright Brother's flew a plane, apparently proving mathematically that heavier than air flight was impossible!  So even with one working model - or a dozen they will not change their dogma!

Sorry to preach here - but selling products that are O/U to the masses is the only way to change a large number of hearts and minds.  And then some things have to be kept quiet to appease the investors along the way.

Yes Mike is combining motor and generator action here by adding the 3rd coil.  You can "change hats" too as every motor can act as a generator and every generator as a motor.  That's part of the key here....

I already have a pretty good idea why his machine works - but need the details to replicate it properly. (some posts identified the right idea, but put it in the wrong place when speaking of negative impedance)  (if he has inverted the polarity of normal "motor" action as I postulated, then this makes a serious negative impedance action at the "main" coil - but alone this does nothing but make rotor drag - there's more to it)

cheers.

DMBoss

Quote from: Rosphere on February 16, 2007, 06:52:12 AM
Quote from: AhuraMazda on February 15, 2007, 11:02:42 PM
@All,

According to http://solid-state-relay.crouzet-usa.com/
Crouzet part, GN-84131100
is replaced by 84137100

Let me introduce my friend: google!

AM


But I might accidentally introduce a random design variable or two.  If my replication does not work then do I blame the replacement part or do I blame something else?


If I may attempt to clarify my cautions about replicating without exact details:

these devices are not unlike an internal combustion engine, in the sense MANY exacting parameters must be just right else you get no "fire"!

you must have the geometry of the engine right, the valve timing, the spark timing and energy, the fuel air mixutre has to be in a very narrow range - the outside air temperature affects the vaporization of the fuel - etc.

Anyone who has had their car not fire on a cold wet morning with bag plug wires knows what I mean!

Now before you ever knew how to make such an engine work, you see one and think you can go to your basement and make your own work!  Not so easy unless you know all the exact details of the operating parameters!

Get any one of the many influencing parameters out of the working envelope, and your car won't start.  Same with this device in an analogy sense.

It may be simple, but not necessarily easy!

To answer, you either blame yourself for not having all the details right, or Mike's machine didn't work.  I cannot see anything in his video to lead me to believe his machine does not work though.  But there may be hidden aspects - some impurity or flaw in a material or incorrectly relayed connections or the like.... or as mentioned a few hundred turns difference in coil  could make it not work too!

Cheers.

hartiberlin

Here is a writeup of user DOM,
who has tried to replicate the Mike motor,
but has notyet the right coil configuration.

But it is a nice guide for people wanting to rebuild the Mike motor.

I post this in 2 version, one in Microsoft WORD format
and one in OpenOffice ODT format.

As we are looking for OpenSource energy publishing,
we can also use OpenSource software.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum