Plasma Electrolysis by IronHead

[keithturtle]

BTW,AP, you into desalination?

I do the dirty water thing, wastewater treatment.

Turtle

[aussepom]

Hi keithTurtle
Yes they can
But you run an RF oscillator this is fed into an RF amp the Rf Amp output switches the mosfet the VDD is 250v DC the rf amp is about 4 to 1 so 4x250 around  950V if you use 300v VDD you can get just under 1200V I do not know if it would work in your application but once the arc is formed you need to keep is sustained this has been the main problem using the system you are trying to replicate, most touch the electrodes together then open up the gap a mechanical operation.
The voltage will fall and the current rise, this could be done with carbon rods as well for electrodes.
DC arcs are harder to sustain, the high frequency RF is easier. BUT BE VERY CAREFUL  WITH HIGH FREQUENCY HIGH POWER RF it will cook you from the inside 3degree burns from the inside of you.
Advanced power technology has a range of them, cheep for you guys over there I am trying to get some from them myself.
aussepom

[aussepom]

Hi keithturtle
This is a follow up
The mosfet does not actually turn and off it's used as a c or a d class amp preferable as push pull.
The signal RF input into the amp is then amplified usually just short of 4 to 1 ratio.
Just like your amp at home that plays music
You can apply this to the standard electrolysis as well but take care.
I am putting together at the moment a demonstration unit for a meeting that I am speaking at, this is a high voltage pulsed power three cell units. I am not sure how it will turn out but I am experimenting again after a few years. I will be talking and showing the break down of the Myers electrolysers there were some interesting things that have come from this, it also has show up some possible flaws.
My main interest is developing my OZ Injector this has got to the build stage and some parts should be ready soon. Mean time I am looking at a few new approaches and explaining things to our followers at Climate Technology Solutions,     
climtechsolutions.com 
aussepom

[passion1]

Hi Guys

I just came across this thread and find it very interesting.
I suspect this site is related to what you are doing:

http://www.hopecell.com

What's your opinion on this?

[keithturtle]

Once again, the HOPE cell is concerned with the creation of gas in addition to heat production.   What I'm after, at least initially, is the heat.   The more gas I can burn (reconbine) in hte plasma process, the better the efficiency, I think.

Still working on it.

aussepom, thanks for the RF info.   I'm about as ignorant as a turtle's plastron when it comes to RF, so there's a lot of homework I must do to grasp yer concepts.   I believe there is a way to use RF in direct HHO production, and I've aleady started fabricating a cell to drive, once I figger out what to drive it with.

It uses 2" long 1/4" rods on a 1/8 core rod.   Many of these in a cylindrical configuration, surrounding a solid 1/2" sq rod as neutral.  All contained in an acrylic tube, water injected at end, gas out the other.

Coil wraps the whole thing, RF applied there.

That's my thought; whether or not it has any basis in reality remains to be seen.

It's a long path, and time is not my friend.

I'll follow yer lead.   Mebbe that oughta be another thread, though.

Thanks again,

Turtle