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Talking about phase...

Started by bob.rennips, July 01, 2007, 08:16:56 PM

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Jdo300

#70
July 13, 2007, 09:56:09 AM
Hello MarkSnoswell,

Hmmmm..... Very interesting animation! Reminds me of a couple of quotes from Steven Mark:

"Rotation of field. . . How many people think about that? If you could have a field that you could think of as a big ball, and you could rotate it in two directions, what would the ramifications be?"

and

"Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.
But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly
around the collector coils.

There need to be three of them all the way around.
start them up one at a time each.

First frequency then second harmonic component into the second,
then the third."

The "second harmonic component" seems to line up with your idea of using x, 2x, x harmonics. Can the effect still work if all three frequencies are the same and just phase shifted?

God Bless,
Jason O

Jdo300

#71
July 13, 2007, 10:02:12 AM
Hello All,

Some people here had asked earlier about the square vs. sine wave input to make the rotating field. In my oppinion, you can use the square waves to 'tap' the coils into resonance, and at that point the waveform will actually turn into a sine wave. The beauty of doing it this way is that you can use an extremely short, quick pulse to accomplish this, and the resulting sine wave will always been a much higher amplitude then the same wave with purely sinusoidal input. Also, it is very energy efficient to do it this way since you're not constantly driving current through the coil as you would with a sine wave input. For those who haven't seen it, I posted a video on YouTube demonstrating this very effect:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpEYlmsMmyw

The trick to getting the higher amplitudes at resonance is NOT grounding the coil, it has to float. One more thing, I didn't show this in the video but you will get a higher amplitude sine wave at resonance with a shorter pulse width than a longer one.

God Bless,
Jason O

MarkSnoswell

#72
July 13, 2007, 10:41:47 AM
just time for some quick notes...

Must have pulses for (efficent) OU effects... you need a spin wave front. If the core effect is due to spin waves fronts driving spinor resonance then the timing of component signals within SM TPU configuration will not be what you expect -- Start with full control of pulse timing and separation for three drive coils and just tune up one at a time.

Drive coils dont need to be closed -- leave them open circuit and it will still work (with dramatically lower input requirment). It's the spin pulse on potential jump that is the motive force. This is the pulse Edison engineers noticed and Tesla called the radiant pulse. By wrapping a collector wire with the drive coil the resulting spin wave front drives current down the central collector coil -- this is what SM alluded to as "like squezing water along a hose". (Ideally the potential pulse is so short that it can be contained within a percentage of the drive coil -- there will be an optimum pulse width but that probably a lot shorter then anyone is using at present.)

Static bias potentials -- both electric and magnetic -- can/need-to be controled for tuning. (This can be used to modulate the output for ease of matching/forming to power grid frequency.)

There is an exponential relationship of static potential to output -- drive with high voltage pulses for maximum effect. Conversly you will have a hard time tuning devices with low voltage pulses.

Start with sine waves and you wont get anywhere. -- you will get lots of nice rotating fields but no easy access to interesting effects.

cheers

mark.
Dr Mark Snoswell.
President of the CGSociety www.cgsociety.org

Bruce_TPU

#73
July 13, 2007, 10:52:45 AM
Dr. Snoswell,

Thank you for confirming what Jason (JDO 300) had posted.  We thought this all along, we just wanted to absolutely verify.   ;)

Warm regards,
Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

giantkiller

#74
July 13, 2007, 12:19:35 PM
Great detail and explanation into the wire loops.

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/94/12/6013

And 'A Sound of Thunder' was always my favorite Ray Bradbury story. Great kinematics! The 'Butterfly effect' was a take off from this.

I noticed in your wire loop graphic there is no copper in the wire cores. ;) I spent a large amount time going through all the CGS links. Real eye candy.

--giantkiller. Great post. Thanks.
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