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The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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Top Gun

Part 3 - Experiencing the first Lee-Tseung Pull

The first Lee-Tseung Pull experiments are as follows:
(1) Perform the modified parallelogram of forces experiment explained in Part 2.  Make the end position, force directions and angles.
(2) Try different directions of pull of the horizontal force in Part 2.  Satisfy the statement that different directions of the force can still move the bob from Position A to Position B.  The final position can be adjusted to that of Position B as marked in (1).
(3) In particular, try the case of keeping the tension of the string (vertical scale) zero until the final position.  This can be achieved by a vertical pull first.
(4)Try to keep the horizontal force as horizontal as possible. 
(5) Try to pull with the direction inclined to below horizontal as in Pendulum21 until the end. 
(6) Satisfy yourself that during the pull, the scale showing tension of the string can be higher than that of the weight in many situations.

The purpose of this part of the experiment is to confirm the theory that the same end result can be achieve with different force functions and/or different paths.

(more to follow)

Can any of you do this part of the experiment???  Ask your 15 year old son, daughter, niece, nephew or friend to help you if needed.

Many of you ask for an absolute confirmation of the Lee-Tseung theory.  This single experiment modified from the standard parallelogram of forces experiment is an extremely important first step.  It cannot be wrong.

Kul_ash

Quote from: Top Gun on April 30, 2008, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: Kul_ash on April 30, 2008, 09:38:34 AM
Show me the exact working pull that you used in your million experiments!!!! If  you can show me that, I will accept your theory! Forget about slides. Tell me how exactly you pulled the pendulum in your experiments. Lets start from there!

Dear Kul_ash,

Thank you for leading the discussion back to science again.  The million-time experiment is the ?experiment demonstrating the parallelogram of forces? in Physics.  I did not keep my secondary school records so I got the laboratory report book from my 15-year-old niece.

Part 1: The experiment as performed in the school of my niece.

The experiment uses three spring scales, a board where one can press nails in, a piece of paper and pencil, pieces of string and nails.  The experimental steps are as follows:
(1)   Place the board horizontally.
(2)   Tie a piece of short string to a piece of longer string so as to produce a knot
(3)   Tie the three ends of (2) to the three spring scales
(4)   Stretch the springs and press three nails to the end rings of the scales to hold their positions
(5)   Take the reading of the scales
(6)   Place the paper underneath the knot and trace the angles
(7)   Compare the experimental results with the calculation from the use of parallelogram of forces.

(Second part to follow.)

@All, I believe all schools do similar physics experiments to illustrate the parallelogram of forces.  This is the basic million-time experiment.

Are there any questions or comments???


So in other wods, you never really ever pulled the pendulum, correct?

Top Gun

Quote from: Kul_ash on May 02, 2008, 07:21:42 AM

So in other words, you never really ever pulled the pendulum, correct?

Dear Kul_ash,

I do not really regard the above as an intelligent question.  Almost any one has pull or pushed a swing.  Any one can hang an object at the end of a string to produce a simple pendulum.  Pulling this object is equivalent to pulling a pendulum.

Is it possible that I have never done such a simple act???

Slide 3, 4, 5 and 6 cannot be wrong.  They can be verified by the modified parallelogram of forces experiments that have been done millions of times all over the World.  You may argue that there are many ways to move the bob from Position A to Position B.  The Lee-Tseung Pull is only one of the many ways.  However, if it is mathematically and physics-wise possible, then gravitational energy can be lead out.

Please stick to the physics and mathematics in your intelligent questions or comments. 

Pirate88179

@ TopGun:

Please stick to physics and mathematics?  Yes, very good idea.  You first.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

chrisC

Quote from: utilitarian on May 01, 2008, 02:21:04 PM


Who cares about any of this?  Cut to the chase and show us a Lee-Tseung pull in action.  Make a video.  You keep talking and talking about this magical Lee-Tseung Pull.  Enough talk.  Show us energy being lead out.  Why can't you do this very simple thing?

@utilitarian

Obviously Mr. Tseung has to try impress the crowd with his muddled Physics, Integral Calculus and Looping efefcts because if he did the simplest push/pull of a simple pendulum, he would have known what any 15 year old student have known since the middle ages - there is NO LEAD OUT Energy!

I feel so sad for a 60+ guy who just don't know when to quit even when the truth stares right into his face!

cheers
chrisC