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Overunity Machines Forum



The Lee-Tseung Lead Out Theory

Started by ltseung888, July 20, 2007, 02:43:44 AM

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ltseung888

Dear Hans,

Referring to your post on
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3260.msg51224.html#msg51224

I know that you must be frustrated without having an actual Over Unity Car, Generator or even a Toy to play with right now.  Hopefully, the wait should not be too long.  If you cannot wait, please pay a visit to the EBM machine in Hungary now (http://www.gammamanager.com).

As agreed with the Inventors, I can only used published data in this Open Forum, I am going to refer you to the Published Patent Document of Dr. Liang Xingren translated by Ms. Forever Yuen. 

She has consented to do her Forever Yuen Magnetic Pendulum Experiment and the Wang Four Legged Stool Experiment on video.  You can see that she is charming and beautiful.  That should satisfy your doubt ? whether she is real?

I am showing the pointers to the various translated pages of the Liang Patent here.

Page 1
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45192.html#msg45192
Page 2
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45197.html#msg45197
Page 3
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45474.html#msg45474
Page 4
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45479.html#msg45479
Page 5-7
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2794.msg45650.html#msg45650

Please read Page 5-7 of the Liang Xingren patent for the actual Horse Powers, dimensions etc.  In 1993, the engine weighted 635 Kg and generated 92 Horse Power.  In 1997, the engine weighted 211 Kg and generated 144 Horse Power.  In 1998, the engine weighted 28 Kg and generated 188 Horse Power.  These figures are taken from the published China Patent Documents.

If you doubt the Patent Documents, I advise you to wait until the Chao or Liang Cars are actually on the Market.  You can then buy or rent one to test the actual figures.

Lawrence Tseung
Pulse Rotation improvement in the Liang Car Leads Out higher efficiency

Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Please look at the thread on New Order at:

http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=13

"Mr. Tseung, can you describe the New Order for us? Let us assume that there is infinite energy and that Flying Saucer is available."

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Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

shruggedatlas

Quote from: ltseung888 on September 24, 2007, 08:39:45 AM
Please look at the thread on New Order at:

http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=13

"Mr. Tseung, can you describe the New Order for us? Let us assume that there is infinite energy and that Flying Saucer is available."

.....

Mr. Tsueng, no offense, but please stop it with this stuff.  You are not helping or being constructive.  All your arguments are becoming very circular and nonsensical, as you continue to quote yourself but add nothing new.  I read a little of the thread you link, and it is sheer fantasy.  You bounce around from wild ideas about Democracy to flying saucers to god-knows-what.  This is not science.

Your main claim, as I see it, is that at high rotational speeds, applying pulse energy to a flywheel or whatever will produce overunity.  You have yet to substantiate this claim with anything conclusive, and no one has has been able to verify what you say through experiments.  You apply your Lead Out theory to failed devices like the Chas Campbell gravity wheel and just about everything else under the sun, and this does nothing to gain traction for your theory, but quite the opposite.  When the devices you talk about clearly fail to work, it does not say much about Lead Out.

So please, when you have something concrete to show us, we will be all ears, but no more theory.

ltseung888

Quote from: shruggedatlas on September 24, 2007, 12:25:33 PM

Your main claim, as I see it, is that at high rotational speeds, applying pulse energy to a flywheel or whatever will produce overunity. 

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Dear shruggedatlas,

I know that you are a lawyer trying to understand and argue on Physics Theories.  If I were to argue legal issue with you with my scientific background, I would definitely show much ignorance and misunderstanding. 

But your posts do serve a very useful purpose.  They show the generalization and hence misconception of the whole theory by the layman. 

As Lee Cheung Kin put it: "Why do you want to educate the unknowledgeable and the non-believers?  What good will it serve if they are convinced?  China has accepted the theory and is pouring resources to implement it.  The skeptics will be convinced automatically when the products come out.  Why waste time and energy?"

My answer is: "My posts are to benefit the World.  There will be a mixed open audience.  In the Bible, there was a parable from Jesus on sowing seeds.  Some would fall on rocks; some amongst thorns; some on sand; some would fall on fertile soil and bear fruit."

The correct scientific statement to your one line statement:

Quote
Your main claim, as I see it, is that at high rotational speeds, applying pulse energy to a flywheel or whatever will produce overunity

should be:

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Pulsed Rotation will Lead Out Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy

Thus for the Chas Campbell or other gravity wheel to have a chance to work, they must have certain characteristics:

(1) Have mass concentrated at the rim. The working devices (Wang, Liang, 225 HP Pulse Motor) all use cylinders. Chas Campbell can improve his wheel easily by adding weights at the rim!

(2) A larger wheel effectively has more mass closer to the rim.  Thus Bessler, Newman and EBM used large wheels.  Chas Campbell uses a reasonable size wheel already.  After the improvement in (1), he should go for larger wheels for further improvement if necessary.

(3) The Pulsing Mechanism will have frequency characteristics.  Thus tuning is required.  If someone hit on the right configuration and achieved Over Unity, it is important to replicate exactly.  A better way is to mass-produce a product with exact material, dimensions etc.  (This can wait until a working prototype is verified.)

(4) The Wheel or Circular Motion has the feedback feature.  The Pulsed Rotation Leads Out gravitational energy resulting in faster rotation. The rate of rotation and hence the amount of energy lead out can be increased with an effective increase in the gravitational constant G.  This means Chas Campbell can put magnets at the rim of his wheel to increase the mass.  He can also put some stationary magnets placed at certain angles (possibly with additional shielding) to help to increase the effective G.  Such arrangement is similar to the Wang device and the Sun et al device shown on youtube.

To a lawyer, the above 4 points may mean nothing.  To the top students and professors at Tsing Hua University, they would have provided good guidelines for further research.  To Chas Campbell, they should be a useful revelation.

The CIA or the Like group once told me: ?Keep this top secret.  It may do the World much harm if it falls to the Wrong Hands.?  I do not believe in the CIA or the Like group any more.  I am convinced my posts will benefit the World.  You do not need to read them if my posts annoy or upset you.

Lawrence Tseung
Misconception of Pulsed Rotations Leads Out mental blackout
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

hansvonlieven

G'day Lawrence and all,

I asked yo a specific question, the above post only gives generalities but answers nothing.

Here it is again.

G'day Lawrence and all,


Assume that such energy can be drained or supplied within x sec, power  in Newton-meter/second (watt)"         
4884.15252      if x =    3


and

The Energy drained or supplied at such high rotational rates is very different from what is experienced in daily life.

Regards,

Lawrence Tseung


What data lead to this rather wild speculation? What kind of energy are you talking about and how do you arrive at the formula?

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx