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Overunity Machines Forum



Stanley Meyer replication with low input power

Started by hartiberlin, August 18, 2007, 04:39:57 PM

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ashtweth_nihilisti

Gheller J, thanks for posting that. You beat me too it.


Ash
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Grumpy

Quote from: Gheller J on January 23, 2009, 07:55:27 AM
Point less throwing insults at each other  and Grumpy you should probably go through Stan's Full Tech Brief to understand what the SS430 is being used for, ignorance and coming to conclusions without having the whole picture doesnt get anyone anywhere, for your convenience im attaching the particular configuration from page 200 of the tech brief so you could come to your own conclusions. got it from the same source Ashtweth is talking about.

Gh. J.

I have read most, if not all, that is available, and from that alone, you can reverse engineer Meyer's method within a few weeks if you have the proper background - much longer or not at all if you do not.  There are other sources that are not public, but these only reinforce your findings.  So, don't jump to conclusions about what I know and expose what you don't know.  I have the whole picture, and it is like a Picasso.

"WHY" this material is specified is important, not the material itself.  This is how "reverse engineering" is performed.  You find "what" then "why".    For all you know Stan got a sweet deal on some surplus wire and it worked, or he never actually used it and sent you all on a wild goose chase - LOL!

What people are willing to publish is much different from what they are willing to say.  So take Meyer's published work as fancy as his word is much closer to face value.

Go ahead and build the 403FR  VIC.  If you do not know how to apply it to the cell then you are wasting your time.  You can copy someone's work to the "T" , but if you do not understand it then you bequeath nothing from it but frustration and aggravation and they love you for it.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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Grumpy

Quote from: dankie on January 23, 2009, 08:29:44 PM
Well thats what pissed me off in the first place with EBN , they dont let you see all the site lol , isnt that the gayest thing ? I asked Stevie if there was anything special and he said no , I may have been rude a bit and I apologize ...

In this post you can see the email from carpenter .

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1185

Stevie (Stevie101 or whatever he went by) is an idiot.  Follow his lead and you will be one too.

I am familiar with Carpenter and their materials.  I designed some lens mounts for cameras out of their Invar a long time ago.  This metal does not expand appreciably and is thus very stable.

Many of their miraging steels are very popular as well, as well as their magnetic alloys.

Secrecy, diversion, denial, smoke and mirrors - that's what it takes.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Shanti

QuoteThe so-called Meyer Mystery was solved a long time ago, Dankie.  Sorry if you guys missed it.  Buzz is explaining it quite well, I suggest you pay attention.

How often I heard that...
Unfortunately this statement is IMHO completely useless, for as long as nobody is really able to replicate a functioning VIC, every theory is as good as the other!

Grumpy

Buzz,

I agree with, and substantiate your conclusions:

Meyer had a problem with ringing of his pulses, SS has high impedence - many other ways to do this, but I think he chose this since it is not obvious.

I'm not sure, but think matal hydride lights will also work.  Pretty much anything like that.

check yer mail

Quote from: TheBuzz on January 27, 2009, 01:01:06 AM
Grumpy,

I figured out another piece of the puzzle.

See this schematic - http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3079.msg152443#msg152443

I think that is a magnetic particle separator - the atoms ARE magnetic. The delrin was specified to resist corrosion along with the SS 304.

The whole SS wire thing is bullshit like you said. Meyer was clearly trying to throw people off and there are more rumors and false claims about Meyer than you can throw a stick at.

I had a guy in my forum figure it out within hours of me and you. Weird huh? He didn't know the exact chemistry term but was on to the process.

I have reverse engineered a lot of free energy devices in my long life but Meyer was without a doubt the toughest. I don't think much of Stan Meyer anymore and doubt he is dead. Based on how much disinfo. he was putting out there, I'm guessing he sold out and is pretending to be a twin brother.

I have most of the gas generator built and I'm building the particle separator tomorrow. I have a pond fogger for a cavitation source and a mercury vapor light will supply the ultraviolet and can be had by breaking the outer glass envelope off a a gas discharge lamp that contains argon for UV filtering and that should be all it takes to replicate Meyer's final design.

An extender for a spark plug will take care of the injector and I bought the tap and die set a while back to do that - pretty much set to replicate the whole process now.

The IR LEDS were to destroy any particles that went past the separator. Meyer would have had to pass pollution control laws so that was a necessary part of the process.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards