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Another Smot Idea w/Pic

Started by aegis, March 15, 2008, 02:15:57 PM

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aegis

I thought of this idea a while ago, but never spent the time to build it because I wasn't sure if it would work or not. Although, I don't know much about magnets, I can't think of one reason why it can't work, but I'm sure someone will try to shoot it down.

This SMOT utilizes both gravity and magnets to generate power and operates in the following way.

As seen in the diagram, the magnets move the ball up the ramp. As it nears the top, the magnets get slightly weaker and the ramp takes on a much slighter slope until it is almost parrallel to the ground and the top of the ramp begins to curve downward. This allows for the ball to escape the magnetic field. The ball then falls onto something resembling a water wheel directly below. This is obviously where power would be generated.

The ball then falls onto the ramp below and gravity brings it down until it takes a right turn near the bottom of the ramp where the downsloping and upsloping ramps meet. It takes a right turn and then goes back up the ramp thus completing the loop, and the process starts all over again.

Now, please tell me why it won't work.

ramset

Interesting very brave of you    your mind is in the right place    so is your drawing lets see ?   Chet
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shruggedatlas

Quote from: aegis on March 15, 2008, 02:15:57 PM
As it nears the top, the magnets get slightly weaker and the ramp takes on a much slighter slope until it is almost parrallel to the ground and the top of the ramp begins to curve downward. This allows for the ball to escape the magnetic field. The ball then falls onto something resembling a water wheel directly below. This is obviously where power would be generated.

I think the problem is going to be with the magnets becoming weaker near the top.  For the SMOT to work, the magnetic force on the ball has to become stronger and stronger as the ball rises, or it will cease to rise and simply stay at the spot where magnets are strongest.

ramset

Shrug   do you think accellerating the ball   at all up the ramp is possible ?      Chet
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aegis

Quote from: shruggedatlas on March 15, 2008, 02:44:23 PM
Quote from: aegis on March 15, 2008, 02:15:57 PM
As it nears the top, the magnets get slightly weaker and the ramp takes on a much slighter slope until it is almost parrallel to the ground and the top of the ramp begins to curve downward. This allows for the ball to escape the magnetic field. The ball then falls onto something resembling a water wheel directly below. This is obviously where power would be generated.

I think the problem is going to be with the magnets becoming weaker near the top.  For the SMOT to work, the magnetic force on the ball has to become stronger and stronger as the ball rises, or it will cease to rise and simply stay at the spot where magnets are strongest.

Look at this video: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xMb0OqK6gx8

You can see that the ball was able to move up the ramp and still escape. It looks like the magnets need to be placed in a V, where they are closer to the ball at it moves up the ramp.

I know that getting the ball to escape is the biggest challenge, and this is exactly what I'm trying to avoid: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yMoIExJEaBU&feature=related