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Perpetual Motion Wheel Design (Quite Simple)

Started by Alexioco, March 22, 2008, 10:10:11 PM

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AB Hammer

Greetings Alex

I have finished my evaluation of your wheel, and since you posted it open source I am writing open source. I see a non runner due to these problems that you need to look at.

Your stops will have a bad centrifugal problem if running, they would plant at the edge. If weighted they would work as a counter balance due to to much weight on the ascending side in their most outward position. The other problem you will keel and all your weights will stay at the bottom. Leaf springs not coiled springs to have control and not have a wild flinging spring. The key is control, without it you only have pop art. There is a bit more to look at, but you need to address these problems first.

Good luck on your quest.
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Sean if it's not too much to ask could you please also try this wheel (http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/GravityMotors/photos/index.html) with working model 2d please. Thanks :)




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PulsedPower

QuoteIt keeps 4 weights on the right and two on the left, so it's 4 verses 2, well, that has to move, and in order to keep it moving, the bottom weight swings, read the description just incase you don?t understand its workings..

Sorry I did not notice the missing weights at positions E and F.

Alexioco

Quote from: AB Hammer on March 26, 2008, 08:34:32 PM
Greetings Alex

I have finished my evaluation of your wheel, and since you posted it open source I am writing open source. I see a non runner due to these problems that you need to look at.

Your stops will have a bad centrifugal problem if running, they would plant at the edge. If weighted they would work as a counter balance due to to much weight on the ascending side in their most outward position. The other problem you will keel and all your weights will stay at the bottom. Leaf springs not coiled springs to have control and not have a wild flinging spring. The key is control, without it you only have pop art. There is a bit more to look at, but you need to address these problems first.

Good luck on your quest.

Hey AB :) Nice to see you

Well, I have found some better ways to release the weights, also I cant let the wheel go to fast or the swinging weights will not make it to the stoppers and like you said, the weights will collect at the bottom, that's why I need to keep the wheel at a steady speed, also about the springs, so I need to use leaf springs? What sizes to they sell them? I have started on my wheel, very slow but sure, I am going to split them up into 8 sections, then cut them out, I don't know when i will be putting them rim on, soon hopefully...

Also, my wheel is;
Wheel
Radius: 30 cm
Diameter: 60 cm

So whats the best length for a spring not forgetting the wheel needs room for the pegs...

This is how I plan to build my wheel
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AB Hammer

OK Alex

lets look a little tighter. The spring length will depend on the flex for to determine length. You want it to be just enough to hold, but the more flexible it is you want a stronger hold, so it will have to be longer to keep it from slipping off prematurely. Now lest look at the swing. We need it to be able to accelerates faster than the wheel turns. Now the drop will not allow it to be fast enough so maybe an added heavy weight closer to the axle to put the pressure on for the release, or some form of shifting unit. This is to remind you that the release weight is still swinging in the same direction trying to go faster than the wheel. In this case study Newton's law. 
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Alan