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Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

Started by Butch, July 02, 2008, 01:01:34 PM

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newton2

Hello Honoured Profiles & Administrator
of
The Honourable OVERUNITY-DISCUSSIONS-FORUM !

Thnks about Your continued going-on interesting important Discussions per
Replies to Replies !

Might I kindly add a little mere text to the Discussions :


**** There are used a kind of MIXED THEORIES/THEOREMES when The
Honoured Profiles are technically arguing PRO-et-CONTRA..........
a "MIXTURE" of CLASSICAL MAGNETO-STATICS with CLASSICAL
ELECTRO-DYNAMICS and even moresome CLASSICAL MECHANICS
(when arguing using Theoreme of Virtual-Work-Force about altered H-Fluxes)


****The Properties of most of mu-r-permeabilities Materials are NOT quite as easy
to would define/specify about......
i.e. "soft-iron-washers" might indeed still have MOST NON-Isotropical-Magnetical-Properties...
and WHAT are used of Magnetical-Materials in One Experiment performed by One Honoured Profile
hardly might be the SAME  of Properties used in a Similar/Nearly-Similar Experiment performed by Other Honoured Profiles !!

Even ferrites-materials-properties might greatly differ in basal mu-r-values and "iso-tropies" and satur-able/linear Means/"Behaviours".....!!


****When placing 2 "soft-iron-rods" parallel and close to Each-Other for
to would "obtain"
a "Push-away"-action caused by an APPLIED NEARBY LOCATED EXTERIOR H-Field

THEN "What" of H-magnetical-Theories/Theoremes to actually would "use" for to realize about the "Forces" etc.................
H-poles...........H-dipoles...........H-fields-patterns..........solenoidal-equivalences-situations....or what-elses.......................!!


****"INSTEAD" of THAT ATTEMPTED SPECIFIED Situation of 2 parallel soft-iron-rods located to should "push"-away-Each-Other because of H-influensed "H-poles" (if Magneto-Statically evaluated)
....
then HOW about some OTHER possible mutual locations of such soft-iron-rods to Each-Other....
and THEN to would specify/define/evaluate about "push or pull" because of H-actings...etc !!


****When having located 2 such soft-iron-rods nearby Each-Other ,
THEN there are some CRITICAL "Parametres-Finesses" to should "deal" with.....

for if TOO close to Each-Other ,
THEN perhaps might appear a PULL instead of a PUSH........

"WHY"......"because" of the mutually-building-up H-influenses-zones
in the soft-iron-rods .!!


****etc...etc.....to would discuss about.......at least mightsome "Force-Values"
be usable to would have in the Disdcussions.......namely the MEASURED
PULL or PUSH Forces Values between the soft-iron-rods when being H-influensed from an exterior H-field !

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WKR & have Yourselves a nice Day and a pleasant Late Autumn/Early Winter and Benefits from Your
respective hardlabored Doings !

infringer

I am curious exactly how this animation works with the triangular shaped front and back.
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AbbaRue

I was looking at the principles behind the Gary Magnetic Motor and thought it might provide some insight here.
The following website has the clearest diagram explaining the principle it's based on.
http://keelynet.com/energy/garyjohn.htm
Perhaps this concept could be utilized in operating the washers.
Only a small movement is required to turn the magnetic field off and reverse it's polarity.
And because the distance of travel is so short it can be moved very quickly.



scotty1

Hi all.
The best place for the Gary motor is Rexresearch...
That link above is a bit different.
http://www.rexresearch.com/gary/gary1.htm

scroll down to Canadian Patent #10239.
The diagrams that show the effect are there.
They are the ones I tested.
I used a large U magnet, some iron, and a magnetized needle to show the pole changing.
I made the needle attract to the U magnet prong...then when the iron was say 3mm from the magnet, the needle would repel from the iron....so the iron was actually being induced by the U magnet.
When the iron was  lowered closer to the magnet then the needle would stick to the iron, showing that the iron had changed polarity.
By again slightly raising the iron, the needle would again be repelled by the iron showing that the iron was again under magnetic induction from the U magnet.
Cheers
Scotty

newton2

Hello Honoured Profiles
and
The Administrator of this The OverUnity-Forum !

Thanks about Your interesting important Discussions plus Links
as mentioned in Replies to eplies in this continued going-on
Pro-et-Contra Technical Forum´s Chapter !!

Might I kindly briefly shortly write these few aspects-points :


****The socalled GARY-MOTOR-Principle is about to would "use" the
socalled GRADIENTES of the H-magnetical Field............!!


****YES......the Math-Integral performed over a CLOSED-LOOP of
Classical Mechanics/Magneto-Statics  [ Force x Way ] -Work caused by
acting of H-Forces (-Lines)  to a socalled "H-Pole´s Charge"...........!!


****Well-then.............
the often troublesome "Circumstance" about HOW to WOULD AVOID
to get building-up a kind of (for OU-actings) )NON-usable EXTRA-
H-influensed local multi-many H-dipoles in the mu-r-permeability-
material......................and ALSO the troublesome
Hystereses-properties of some various mu-r-materials..........!!

Thanks about also the included Discussion about a GARY-MOTOR-Principle
in this continued going-on Chapter in this OU-Forum !

How about ALSO to would in brief ways discuss about ENHANCED IMPROVED
Electro-Motor H-poles-Topologies for BETTERING the "Torques" and
"stray-fields"  Problematics , etc !!

Please mention MORE of various LINKS and further Discussions-Themes of
OU in terms of the Original Topic´s Theme......etc !!

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WKR & have Yourselves a nice Day andapleasant Late Autumn/Early Winter
and Fruitfull Experimental Results and Benefits from Your respective Hardlabored Doings ! !

And thanks about Your interesting important novel Contributions forto would
obtain OU-Actings !!