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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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peter from oz

Hello All, have just staggered thru this thread and read the patent, went back to page one and saw the date, October 2005, youve gotta be kidding. RR2 your tenacity is staggering with the little help you have received and l commend you and hope your goal is successful. From what l have read and cos l want to produce enough gas on demand to power a small truck and or private power plant which of his methods would you suggest l play with, maybe something with more vigerous output with loss of consumables or do you think #13 with larger quatities would do the job, tho l do have 5lt of both kinds of acid, thanks
Peter

ResinRat2

Any demonstration videos that Dr.Griffin has posted always use what he terms an "acid-iron" reaction. That must mean this probably gives the best output because I believe anything he puts effort into building will most certainly be made with his best output design. It must also operate at room temperature. Since several of the experiments run at temperatures above room temp, and not all use iron, I would guess any that use iron pellets or oxidized iron would be close to his best output. Unfortunately, these all also use colloidal lead, which scares me very much. Colloidal minerals absorb in you body readily, and the idea of getting colloidal lead on my skin, or breathing the vapors also has me worried, so I would opt for using the NaOH (sodium hydroxide) experiments. Try potassium hydroxide in place of sodium hydroxide as well.. That's why I chose experiment 13. It seemed the safest to use, and if your out put is not that great, then just build a larger unit until you get the output you need. I also don't believe his best output design would be in the patent anyway. You never reveal any details of best designs in patents. It just doesn't happen.

I know this seems a copout answer, but until I get the assembled reactor operating long term I don't much care about having a "super" gas output. I want overunity, the output can be fixed later.

As far as my progress is going. I have all the holes drilled, and the stopper holes are being slowly drilled as well. I don't want to overshoot the needed size and waste materials. I am sorry if anyone is frustrated by my progress, but I am working on this as a hobby, not a job. I am going as fast as I am able and progress is being made. Pretty soon I'll be back in business.

Thanks for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

rozzaa72

RESINRAT:,HOW MUCH HYDROGEN DO YOU NEED TO RUN A CAR AND WHAT IS YOUR BEST OUTPUT AND IS IT POSSIBLE TO UPSIZE TO MEET THIS, ROZ

bitbo

Hi ROZ!

Please read my calculations three post prior to this !
- You need apprx. 20 Liter hydrogen per minute for 0.2 KW
- You need apprx. 200 Liter hydrogen per minute for 2 KW
- You need apprx. 2000 Liter hydrogen per minute for 20 KW

You also need 20 KW to cruise on the highway at 50-60 mph
(depending on the vehicle)

To accelerate fast you may need 20.000 liter hydrogen per minute for 200 KW
(yes, hydrogen is not very good in "energy per volume")

Bye, bitbo




bitbo

Hi All !

I just made a backward calculation which looks a little bit better for us:

When running an 6 liter engine at 3000 rpm full throttle it consumes apprx. 18000 liter air.
Hydrogen burns best at an optimum air/hydrogen ratio 2/1 (wikipedia)
Let us assume 30% hydrogen is fine (a little bit lean), then we consume
8.000 liter hydrogen and 10.000 liter air in that engine at 3000 rpm per minute.
That engine produces also apprx. 200 KW in that case.

So my previous calculation (20.000) is obviously 2.5 times to high or my
generator (on which the calculation is based on runs a very rich
gas mixture or is not very efficient).

Conclusion:
- You will need appx. 10.000 liter hydogen per minute to accelerate (220 KW)
- You will need appx. 1.000 liter hydogen per minute to cruise on the highway (22KW)

Hope that helps
bye bitbo