New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)

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[Bruce_TPU]

Hello Stefan.

To answer your question, yes.  It is simply an inverted funnel filled with some type of biomedia normaly, (bits of plastic to break the water up as it falls.  The Gas is bubbled through diffusers on the bottom.  So as the water falls, and the gas rises, = Saturation or even supersaturation. 

The thing that bothers me about the Ryan Bike is two fold.  A) the amount of gas saturating the water could not possibly be enough to run the bikes motor. ie 11000 litres of hydrogen (1 kg) is gallon of gas equivalent. 

Could it be that enough gas was introduced that when the water was misted into his carbarator the high temperature of the trapped gas on combustion (3,000 deg. F) that it caused spontaneous seperation of the hydrogen, oxygen in the water mist to ignite? 

If so, why a small bike and not a car??

I believe that Ryan used a Chemical, probably HCL (muriatic acid).  When Nickel is placed in HCL there is no reation.  But if you leave the Nickel in the HCL and run a wire attached to the Nickel and attach it to a piece of Zinc it will bubble up hydrogen gas.
I have included a link for you to see these experiments I ran across.  http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/JCESoft/CCA/CCA3/MAIN/VOLTAGE/PAGE1.HTM
I think when Ryan connected the wires, he started this hydrogen reaction, under pressure in the sealed box and supersaturated the water with pure hydrogen.  And then misted it into his carb!?!?

[hanker886]

Here is a Japanese version of water car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1OWDcWoXHs

[MarkEngr]

Btentzer,

How can he super saturate water with hydrogen that is already in the water? Are there two resevoirs? One for getting hydrogen out of and the other water gets saturated? Kind of like this the electrode is in the top resevoir pumping off the hydrogen that gets collected in the bottom resevoir.


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[Bruce_TPU]

I believe that the sealed box that the water is poured into contains a second area of LIQUID (HCL).  It is this second body of HCL that actually gives off the hydrogen when the box is sealed and the wire connected.  This in turn supersaturates the water that he poured into the box.  With the box sealed, and hydrogen being freed in the box, this would in turn raise the pressure within the box, thus supersaturating the water.  If you watch the vid closely, they have to wait a period of time until the process is completed.  (see above links on how I believe the connecting of the wire works)

Below is a little info to understand the supersaturation of water with a gas.

Supersaturated: In referring to solutions, a solution that contains more than the maximum amount of solvent that can normally be dissolved in a given amount of solvent at a given temperature.

Supersaturation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
?   The term supersaturation refers to a solution that contains more of the dissolved material than could be dissolved by the solvent under normal circumstances. It can also refer to a vapor of a compound that has a higher (partial) pressure than the vapor pressure of that compound.

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Supersaturated solutions are prepared or result when some condition of a saturated solution is changed, for example temperature, volume (as by evaporation), or pressure.
[edit] Examples
Carbonated water is a supersaturated solution of carbon dioxide gas in water. At the elevated pressure in the bottle, carbon dioxide can dissolve in water more than at atmospheric pressure. At atmospheric pressure, the carbon dioxide gas escapes very slowly from the supersaturated liquid. This process may be accelerated by the presence of nucleation sites within the solution, such as small bubbles, caused by shaking the bottle, or another solute, such as sugar powder or a widget. A Mentos eruption is a rather extreme example. Some beverage products such as ales and stouts e.g. Guinness rely on this effect to produce the 'head' on the surface of the poured product. This has led to the invention of the widget, a device developed to produce enhanced bubble seeding in liquids, especially with dual supersaturated gas phases (carbon dioxide and nitrogen) (see patents by Fitzpatrick and Kuzniarski).
Scuba divers' tissues become supersaturated with breathing gases during a dive. If the diver ascends too fast, these gases form bubbles, resulting in decompression sickness.
In air that is supersaturated with water, water droplets may precipitate upon being disturbed. This can be observed in a cloud chamber. In the more general context a precipitate may form.
Supersaturated solutions of sugar and water are commonly used to make Rock candy.

Regards.

Carbon Dioxide is the 'gas' most frequently dealt with by fish farmers, but the supersaturation of oxygen (pure) in the water can be just as damaging to some species.  Any gas can supersaturate water.  The exact how, down to the molecular level you would need to research out.