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The Last TPU Development On The WWW

Started by AhuraMazda, March 19, 2009, 11:33:27 AM

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Grumpy

Quote from: AhuraMazda on March 31, 2009, 11:18:56 AM
@Grumpy,
It is interesting that you named your attachment "saturable inductors".

Depending on wether they are used just as a closing switch or for pulse compression, you could say saturable inductor or saturable reactor, respectively.

Of course, closer inspection of the videos reveals that the cores "appear" to be wound like a saturable-core reactor, like those used to control AC loads (two coils):

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14180/css/14180_136.htm

Someone mentioned a long time ago that this was a popular method of power regulation many years ago.

Here is the circuit with two reactors and this have be the basis of the two cores in the video picture that I just posted.

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14180/css/14180_139.htm
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

forest

Quote from: Grumpy on March 31, 2009, 12:31:24 PM
Depending on wether they are used just as a closing switch or for pulse compression, you could say saturable inductor or saturable reactor, respectively.

Of course, closer inspection of the videos reveals that the cores "appear" to be wound like a saturable-core reactor, like those used to control AC loads (two coils):

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14180/css/14180_136.htm

Someone mentioned a long time ago that this was a popular method of power regulation many years ago.

Here is the circuit with two reactors and this have be the basis of the two cores in the video picture that I just posted.

http://www.tpub.com/content/neets/14180/css/14180_139.htm


YES,this is exactly the same IMHO. Now we know what is used to prevent runaway situation.

wings

Quote from: forest on March 29, 2009, 10:27:37 AM
I have an idea.Call it crazy but think a moment about it.
What will happen if I sweep magnetic flux over non-induction coil ? I imagine that no current will be generated due to opposite directions of possibly induced currents or in other words : zero voltage between ends of coil.Well,I point to that informations : http://www.hyiq.org/Library/02-03-09.htm, particularly to presented video.

In closed loop of wire sweeped by magnetic flux no current is flowing, but something interesting seems to occur anyway, which was not a point of interest afaik : charges are separated over wire loop.

If that's really happening then kind of sink put somewhere on the same wire should generate current, even in closed loop (of course on wire surface).In other words electrostatic potential may generate current if there is sufficient electrostatic field and in some part of circuit electrons are slightly accelerated on wire surface .

That would be not enough however. Generated so small current must be used then to create bigger surface charge separation by using induced magnetic field. Such device should be consisted of charge separation grids joined by main coils when charges are collected and acceleration coils which will speed-up charges on wire surface and also will rise charges amount on main coils.

@ forest
SM "Tesla states that you can have all kinds of electrons flowing through a wire traveling in different directions relating only to their potential power source. He even said that you could have different electron flows through a single wire completely separate from each other. I tried it and he is right!"

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=712.30

forest

SM said : "The point I wish to make here is that also along with the 500 volt
DC is, yes, you guessed it, the 5 volts three amp AC current!
They are both completely independent of each other except for
some very interesting things I will mention to you some other
time
..
First of all, obviously you can have several different output
components in the power output signal.
You can have DC and AC together without any problem."

Would somebody enlighten me please ?  :-[

Grumpy

Quote from: forest on March 31, 2009, 02:28:41 PM
YES,this is exactly the same IMHO. Now we know what is used to prevent runaway situation.


I think that the saturable reactors are the integral parts in SM's "gatekeepeer" circuit.

I don't think that the saturable reactors were used in the configuration for AC load control, but probably came from an off-the-shelf regulator that served this purpose.  I suspect that he connected one side fo the reactors to a bias source (probably tunable) and the other coil is used to create pulses from a DC input.

Not sure what SM used for a controller (switch).

For the smart-ass that will say that we need an AC or pulsed input, I offer this pattent as an example:

It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards