The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

[gn0stik]

I don't think the Iron Wire had much to do with the effect, it was just convenient material at the time. Perhaps I'm wrong though, Iron would have the effect of retaining some of it's magnetic properties when charge was absent during pulses. This, in most applications would be undesirable. But in perhaps the "worst case scenario" applies to this as well. As Bob said we can try it both ways in the experiments. However, if it is beneficial, I doubt we'll see any benefits of it, until we've got some coils wound.

Having looked up baling wire myself, it appears it's most common form is galvanized steel or black annealed steel.

Looking up the resistivity of steel, it is at least 10 times as much as copper. Why is this of any importance?

Well, if you are sending a sharp pulse down this baling wire as opposed to copper, the pulse will find much more resisitance to flow than through the copper wire and allow you a little more time to STOP THE PULSE before it gets too far down the wire.

Just a thought, just something I noticed is all, who knows if Steven in intended this or not......


*As a side note, Stan Meyer used Stainless Steel wire in his pulsing unit to 'restrict amp flow' to his 'water capacitor'--According to his large technical brief....

Electricity doesn't travel any slower based on resistance.

[Elvis Oswald]

In reference to the 'kick' - if you are generating any current in a wire... then it will come at the standard cost... and you will see no overunity.

If you plan on using disruptive discharge to get overunity, then you need to understand that any current on the 'other side' of the gap is not free.  It will come at a cost - which is more than just running current through the wire... some of the energy is lost to heat.

What you can do with the spark gap is freeing plasma... and you can step that up, and then convert it to current to create more energy than you started with.

[bob.diroto]

@ bob: Looks to me like your test setup is a modified tank circuit, nice use of the light bulb. I assume you plan on tuning your coil there, if so, how do you plan on getting your coil tuned to the same freq as your ingnition? Or does the coil symbol there represent your ignition coil?

Yes, it is a modified tank circuit. I'm assuming Steven Mark's device works using two principles. Firstly a cascading of 'kicks' and secondly pulsing the energy formed by these kicks so that these is some resonance with the ionesphere. Now obviously these two principle can be combined together if you know both the frequency for the kicks and the frequency for pulsing the resultant energy. In arbitrary units if you have an ideal frequency of 40 for kicks and an ideal frequency of 50 for pulsing ionesphere then a frequency of 200 will work OK as 40 and 50 are both factors of 200 but a frequency of 100 will not. Much easier to nail down one frequency first and then move up in multiples of this frequency to find out how to pulse the ionesphere.

The schematic is only intended to generate cascaded 'kicks'. The important part is the capacitor which provides a +ve plate to which the collected charge from the copper pipe can move towards thus generating the current. I've added the air coil in order to provide some additional impedance into the circuit in order to bring the resonant frequency down to a reasonable level so that I can observe on the basic oscilloscope that I have. I'm imagining that the 'kick' units will not have a high impedance because they are not really coils.

Totally separately as a test bed I'm proposing using an ignition coil driven by a mosfet circuit which in turn is turned on/off via a signal generator. That way I can give a big walloping charge to just one kick unit in order to get the geometry of the kick unit correct. i.e. To get the size of the collector plate correct. To do this I'll be trying different diameter copper pipe at different heights. As mentioned I'll be starting at a 1 to 1 ratio of height to circumference. So the ignition coil is just there for the test bed and not part of the schematic.

To make things slightly more complicated I've started reading Eric Dollard material as hightlighted by Tao (thanks Tao - it is certainly interesting). Eric believes that there is a difference 'quality' (as in the characterisitcs of the charge) of charge coming from a collapsing magnetic field and one coming from a capacitor... So I might have to scrap my ignition coil test bed idea for that of having a capacitor charging circuit for the capacitor and then organising for this capacitor to dump it's charge across a kick coil at regular intervals. This is more inline with what Tesla was doing with his Wireless Energy Transmission Coil stuff except he used a resonant circuit to charge a capacitor which then dumped across a spark gap into his main tesla coil.

[Elvis Oswald]

yes you can pick up the charge that's radiated.  But unless you have done something to it, then you are only capturing what you have put in.  of course this may or may not be true... but this whole thread is speculation at this point.
How the marks device implements this is something that everyone is guessing at... but if we have decided that it is based on what Tesla did - then you must consider the details of the Tesla coil.  Between the Tesla coil and the marks device... we know more about Tesla's work at this point.

Using bob's ignition coil and spark plug - the next step, per Tesla's work - would be to place a coil over the gap.  The coil would step up the plasma 10,000 times per foot of coil and radiate that energy - which could then be captured in the form of a charge on a metal plate within range of the coil.
And that's what my comments are based on - the fact that he was using the setup to test the principle of disruptive discharge providing some sort of energy that could be transformed and used without adding load to the primary circuit.

How the marks device does this would be the next step after understanding what exactly is occuring with the disruptive discharge.

And yes - the output is cold electricity... but there is a primary circuit connected to a spark-gap... and yes there is heat at that spark - the cold electricity is the radiant energy.

[bob.diroto]

One of the things I didn't understand with Steven Mark's use of baling wire as a coil was:

How could you make a working coil using baling wire when baling wire isn't insulated ?

The answer is because you are not making a working coil!!

The baling wire is used as an easy way to make a tube of metal of variable diameter and variable height. Therefore the wire used must be uninsulated and conductive. In other words it's used to make a collector tube. Once the working dimensions are known a copper tube or steel tube of the right dimensions could be used.

I realised this as I was trying to make different sizes of copper tube to try in my kick units. I was thinking this is going to be extremely tedious cutting all these different sizes of copper pipe. What I need is a way of easily making variable sized tubes....

Basically Steven Mark was cutting the wire to reduce the height of his collector pipe until he found a point where the most charge was collected.

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