Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Cherryman]

Not sure if i understand it correctly, but could it be something like this?

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7175.msg169167#msg169167

[Omnibus]

@mondrasek and @Cherryman,

There is, intuitively, something very interesting in your idea (I use singular since it appears to be basically the same idea in both). Thus, trivially, as @mr_bojangles says:

even if all the energy is used by the momentum of the ball falling, it will still only be able to return to the same height it was dropped from

However, if properly timed, it seems that for a moment, when the ball passes through the neutral point the ball is excluded from the system of interest to us, that is the rotating wheel, and the pull of gravity on the system of interest to us will differ from the pull on that system with the ball as part of it. That asymmetry may be thought of as what would keep the setup turning on its own only due to the existence of gravity and not due to an energy supply from a pre-existing energy reservoir. Again, this is only on an intuitive level. It has to be shown, however, how the conservation of momentum isn’t standing in the way; if violation of conservation of momentum is claimed then it has to be demonstrated experimentally.

[Philip Hardcastle]

@omnibus,

LOL

Aaaagh, you have converted to the flat earthers!.

As there is no energy in claimed, then Coe says it is just not a goer anyway you rig it.

Phil.

ps talking of asymmetry what did you think of my curled ballistic idea posted on the site (somewhere). No one has claimed the $1,000 I offered.

[Omnibus]

@Philip Hardcastle,

As there is no energy in claimed, then Coe says it is just not a goer anyway you rig it.

Not always so. There are instances where energy appears only due to a proper construction of the machine enabling displacement under the action of a conservative force without the involvement of a pre-existing energy reservoir. Discontinuous production of such "energy out of nothing" can be readily demonstrated (this is violation of the "conservation" aspect of CoE, not of its "transformation" aspect which can never be violated). So far, however, I haven't seen experimentally demonstrated continuous production of "energy out of noting" (that is, continuous displacement caused by a conservative force only due to proper construction without pre-existing energy reservoir involved) because of various energy losses hindering closing the loop. Closing the loop is a very difficult purely engineering problem, still unresolved. What I said in my earlier posting concerning continuous production of excess energy is only a speculation, something on an intuitive level. Turning it into a working model in flesh and blood is something very, very difficult constructively, something that has never been achieved so far, as far as I know (The claims of that Bob in Canada, Sjack Abeling and several others are still unconfirmed and I'm not counting them at present as anything else but just pure noise)

[Philip Hardcastle]

@omni,

I am intrigued, give me an example of an instance, please

Phil