Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[aether22]

Hi All,

To better replicate and try and understand just what could possibly be happening that gives the Kapagen it's OU effect, it is important to know just how it was discovered. Here is more information from JLN.

"Initially, at the beginning of the project, my  was fixed in the Kapagen blue box with four 8 mm diam nuts and bolts and the box was placed on the grass. At the beginning of the v3 test the power input was equal to the output power, then after some minutes of testing, I have noticed that the power input has dropped dramatically to less then half of the starting power for the same level of the light output while an odor of burnt grass could be smelt... This was a strange event and then after some investigations, I have found that this was below the blue box... See the photo attached, the bolts has burned the grass and three burn marks can be clearly seen..."

"So, after this event, I have added the thick steel plate below the box... May be at this moment I have discovered something here..."

So it sounds like JLN's steel plate may just give a broader and better conduction to the ground. This is not to say that it could be replicated with just another ground spike as the direct arcing to the soil of the ground maybe an important factor in getting it to work. Even when you look at the picture of his steel plate under his blue box, it looks like there are some burn marks from arcing.

This is truly significant! (obviously)
And it weakens the case of naysayers who say that the measurements are wrong, because at first the measurements did show unity which suggests the readings aren't screwed up.

Also my intent BTW is to do a full wave rectification and maybe smoothing on the input to the  primary and then measure the current with an analog amp meter, that can't be screwed up by RF!

Also important is we now have one of those tricky hidden secrets that normally inventors just hide, Luckily JLN has been in this long enough to recognize how destructive keeping such secrets has been, he should be applauded for getting behind these replications!

I wonder if a Steel plate is significant or if Copper or Aluminium would be as good or better? (the magnetism might be significant)

[hartiberlin]

Strange, didn't Harti say that JLN told him there was no CAP?  Or maybe I have it wrong.

Yes, I understood it this way on the phone, but maybe it was only in the first 2 videos ?
He  then later might have used it this way, as he emailed Ossi now.

So the question is now, if the iron plate is now a real third ground connection,
how does it reduce the power input ?

Is it a real ground connection or just a sparking
loose ground connection ?

The input power should be really measured much more far away inside the house
at the begining of en extension cord cable, maybe about 30 to 50 Meters away
from the experiment, otherwise the RF pulses from the spark gap
can just jam the ampere meter.

Regards, Stefan.

[aether22]

Does MOT have HV coil connected to its iron core ? they usually do ? if so just wire should be connected to iron core and grounded..

Never assume with these systems that 2 electrically similar conditions are infact identical.
By default you should keep things the same and only later make changes, one correlation is some who had success did pass current through the MOT core.

[dllabarre]

So the question is now, if the iron plate is now a real third ground connection,
how does it reduce the power input ?

Is it a real ground connection or just a sparking
loose ground connection ?

The input power should be really measured much more far away inside the house
at the begining of en extension cord cable, maybe about 30 to 50 Meters away
from the experiment, otherwise the RF pulses from the spark gap
can just jam the ampere meter.

Regards, Stefan.

Would covering the spark gap (top and 2 sides) help eliminate some of the RF from interfering with the AMP meter?

What if the steel plate under the MOT acts as positive instead of a ground?
Wouldn't it connect with one of the grounds to complete a circuit?
grnd rod ------------------ plate (pos/neg osc)
It would oscilate from the left side of the MOT, through the center of the core, to the ground rod on left of callanan schema, through the earth, to the plate, back to the MOT? It might pick up extra energy?

I'm just thinking out loud from a non-electrical engineer point of view.

Don

[aether22]

@dllabarre, JLN has confirmed that the very thick black line in the  respresents a copper rod or a bundle of thick copper wires.

Ok, so one relatively thin wire goes through the hole, connects to the thick rod or bundle of wires once or twice and then goes back again?
Because the image shows one thin wire doing a hairpin turn in and out and a fat conductor making for 3 conductors through the core so to speak.

Sorry to be pedantic but the fewer variations needed to try the higher the odds of success.

Ok, I think I get it now, there is a bundle of wires, a single wire and a rod.  The top wire in the diagram is the bundle, the bottom is the single and the middle one is the rod.  It is otherwise the same as others have done except for the addition of the rod.