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Earth Electrical Energy Datalogging Experiments

Started by Pirate88179, July 14, 2009, 09:40:58 PM

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IotaYodi

QuoteHowever I have 1 question, when Nathan Stubblefield placed his gadget ( ;)) in the earth, did he lay it horizontal or vertical?
It is shown vertically. Figure 2.
http://www.linux-host.org/energy/tearth.htm
Its orientation shouldnt be relevant. I dont see it changing the collapsing field to produce more or less voltage or current.
From my understanding the orgone or aether is not an electromagnetic wave. But it does interact with a magnetic field when the field is tuned in conjunction with a coil as in Sweets work. Powerful stuff.
I havent seen anyone enclose it in water. If they have lets see some pictures.
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MW383

Quote from: jeanna on November 16, 2009, 02:02:09 PM
Hi mw383,
I think the washers idea is a plain voltaic pile is it not?

I also had the idea which we discussed a while back that the copper and iron wires needed to be stacked.
The part I could not do was to make layers stay where they belong.
I think if you can figure this part out you might have a really good stubblefield generator.
And really it might only take a drill press and some precision tools to make it work.

jeanna

I'm not sure what a voltaic pile is exactly. My washer experiements were strictly done to increase surface area of electo-chemistry. I have pretty much stopped playing with standard voltaic earth batteries. Perhaps I will re-engage because I can make a much higher mA standard voltaic unit that should be quite useful for jule thief applications.

In regards to winding a Stubblefield. I am still trying to figure out a way to keep irons and coppers aligned through the layers. Proving to be difficult. I am really pissed at my iron wire because it is so stiff to work with. It is 16ga annealed. I'll let you know if I come up with a method here. Electrime is building some cool apparatus for winding, I will have to review and see if he has ideas on this alignment thing. I am beginning to wonder of this is even a requirement any more (which goes back on a lot of things I speculated....).

, MW

jeanna

Quote from: electricme on November 17, 2009, 07:38:41 AM
@ All,

Everyone is doing good work here, it is very interresting.

However I have 1 question, when Nathan Stubblefield placed his gadget ( ;)) in the earth, did he lay it horizontal or vertical?

I am asking, because I think a iron bolt will work more efficiently one way, then the iron windings would be at 90 degrees to the iron bolt, am I off target or have I opened another can of worms :D.

jim
Hi Jim,
I have posted a couple of pix a few times to show them in use.
He may have used them in many other ways, but there is pictorial evidence that the coil was on the top 5 or 6 inches of a long stake which is stuck into the ground.
I have assumed that the stake is mild iron because he says in his patent to use that.

The rest is guesswork and the only way I know to answer the guesses is to try it.

It is warm where you are now, so it is your turn to play with this!

So, please do and let us know.

thank you,

jeanna

@mw383,
QuoteI am beginning to wonder of this is even a requirement any more (which goes back on a lot of things I speculated....).
Yeah, me too.
I gave up on it. My fingers hurt and I was using 19g!!
j

tishatang

All
For a source of iron wire, go to the local building supply.  They use soft iron wire to tie rebar together before concrete is poured.  The iron wire comes in  rolls about 4 inches in diameter.  Find some copper insulated wire that is about the same outer diameter.  That way, when you lay the copper and iron wire together they will have even height for the next layer.  This wire is quite soft.  But I have always used pliers to bend and twist it.  So, I don't know how difficult it will be to wind as a coil by hand.

There are some missing or unpublished notes on Stubblefield somewhere?  They might give a hint on orientation of coils.  I would guess the bolt parallel to the earth's magnetic field?  But, it could be that a vertical 90 degree position would create torsion to react with the orgone?  Only experiments will reveal what to do.

If pumping the EB will interact with the local orgone, then it can be made to attract more orgone by continued pumping.  Orgone acts opposite to normal hot energy.  Orgone wants to move from lower to higher more concentrated levels.  Hot energy wants to move from higher to lower levels to balance out the charges.  Once charged, the local aether will remain charged with the energy taking a while to dissipate even if the power is turned off.

For an overview of orgone energy and Wilhelm Reich go here:

http://www.orgone.org/articles/ax9kelley1a.htm

The construction of the Stubblefield EB is exactly like an orgone accumulator or Joe Cell.  All have alternate layers of metal and insulation, or conductors and insulators.  Each coil of wire is the same effect as if it were a solid metal cylinder.  You have many layers of wire (cylinders) separated by insulation.  Instead of passive like the original orgone accumulator, it is charged by electricity like the Joe Cell.  In the Joe Cell, you have multiple cylinders separated by water, a dielectric.  Orgone seems to be attracted to water and charges it.  There is much water in the earth surrounding the EB.  Orgone energy is the only thing that explains the glowing light coming from the ground around his house.  This was observed by friends bringing food to him in his last days.  This is described by the chapter from "LOST SCIENCE" I referenced earlier.  Read "Sunlight" and "Sunset" at the very end of the chapter.

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/history/nathan-s.htm

The trick is how to collect cold (orgone?) energy starting out with conventional hot electricity.  Stubblefield, Moray, Gray and Tesla all had their method.  All we can do is try and decode the few clues left behind.

Pirate88179

I have ordered an SEC 18-1 from Dr. Stiffler and I want to see if I can run it from my EER.  I can't wait to play with this device and see if I can get it to run from the ground.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen