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Thane Heins BI-TOROID TRANSFORMER

Started by shimondoodkin, July 24, 2009, 11:33:44 PM

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wattsup

@TH

Well it was one hell of a jam session. At one point we were jamming and I just kept leading on the guitar and then went to the microphone and started improvising some lyrics on the universe, power, being one, then at one point I just repeated the word one, one, one and the music just synced into a major outburst of great abstract intonations, as if the whole band reached some level of musical overunity. Next time I will set up a video camera and do a few youtubes. I never bother learning songs off by heart. Jamming for me is the most instant expression of what your soul wants to say in musical form. Learning it off by heart just renders the music more clinical in nature and none of us are there to peddle prepacked sound waves. It's all great fun. We will try to do this monthly from now on.

About your two images, that's funny cause that is exactly what happens. Start a fight and both get knocked down.

OK, since you did not mention anything about the percentages you put up, I understand they should be self-explanatory. Yes one test can show a level while the other shows another level and between them they show a percentage increase (or decrease). We know that. The question is, what is the real importance of this? Usually, under differing conditions we already expect different results. That does not imply an increase but simply shows the normal result under that new condition. An "increase" would be considered if conditions were the same, say, the S2 had 10 turns then tired with an S2 of 100 turns, then comparing the differences. Anyways, I guess that is left to interpretations.

Also, then let me simply ask you some questions here that are issues to the BITT that have not gotten any response from you yet. These questions will hopefully simplify your needing to mull over past posts and figure out what has not been covered.

1) We can see a difference between the diagram you use to explain the effects and the actual BITT build itself. Especially we can note that the primary core is not centered to the inner O core but lying on top of it. So how do you think this deviation from the diagram effects the actual results seen thus far? Do you think better results would be obtained if the primary core was centered?

2) In your explanations using the diagram after you switch from Test 1, 2, 3 then 4 you are showing flux flow but usually in one direction when in fact with AC that flux flow leaving the primary should be switching between each end of the primary core. So the flux travel should be looked at from both sides. Does this change how you see the flux paths when the S1/S2 test variations were performed?

3) In your last video BITT 4.1 Supplemental at Stardate 3110-2010  (lol) ,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f4ZPXwHue4
Did you manage to take down what the feed supply was to the standard transformer primary when the output hit 10 volts? 

4) The S2 that is connected to the bulb has many turns on it that make me think they are there for no additional output purposes, simply given the output level. What do you think would happen if that secondary, instead of being one coil of x turns, was instead 10 coils of x turns, wound one beside the other, either hooked up all parallel, or some series then in parallel?

5) While the bulb is lit, have you ever tried just manually hit the wires of the S1 coil on and off to see how the S2 bulb will vary in intensity? This could also be better seen with a dioded cap on the load since it will catch and retain any higher voltage spikes while pulsing manually the S1.

That's all I have to ask. Have a good Halloween.

lumen

 Wattsup

I understand the jamming fun, I used to get into that, and have even generated some "free energy" lyrics myself, from inspired moments.

I have been trying to model this BITT device to find the main working principal in it's design. The only thing that makes sense is having the primary sending it's flux in two directions down a core that holds a lot of flux and at the same time, delays the flux as much as possible.
Once the flux is heading down a path from the center out towards the secondaries, the primary is then removed. At this point the flux cannot return because of the opposing flux vectors in the core, and must proceed through the secondaries even without further push from the primary.

It seems that the 90 degree phase angle is the required component of OU operation. This is not necessarily generated by the BITT but is a requirement for the BITT to operate in OU. I'm saying that for the BITT to be OU, one must have an exact design that will cause a 90 degree phase shift between the primary and the secondaries. The load itself may then work against this phase shift to cause the device to drop below OU.
It may be possible to bypass this problem by powering the BITT with an AC phase inverter, so the frequency could also be controlled. Then when the phase angle starts to fall from 90 degrees, the frequency would be increased to correct the phase angle.




maw2432

TH
OK this may be a dumb question.... but please tell me - does this only show possible OU results with AC input?    Can you show us some DC input results or tell us why it must have AC input?

Thanks

Bill

kippered

Quote from: maw2432 on November 01, 2010, 06:58:36 PM
TH
OK this may be a dumb question.... but please tell me - does this only show possible OU results with AC input?    Can you show us some DC input results or tell us why it must have AC input?

Thanks

Bill

You need an alternating current, or type of pusled DC for a transformer to work otherwise you just saturate the core and nothing happens

SchubertReijiMaigo

Transformer can work both with pulsed DC "Flyback" or normaly (with AC sinusoidal input). Every signal that does'nt correspond to a pure sinusoid tend to induce a lot of harmonics, look at some oscilloscope when you pulse a coil with DC, you notice some spike and weird signals. Those harmonics tend to overheat the transformer core. A transformer work the best (in term of efficiency) with pure AC input. With DC, like said above, you just saturate the core and burn watts.