Global Warming

[happyfunball]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/12/09/2765726.htm?section=justin

[Cap-Z-ro]

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Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 08, 2009, 10:54:55 PM

    I have to say that the eyebrow of even the casual observer would be raised after seeing the well grounded and reasoned words of ResinRat and Silverfish offhandedly dismissed as the paid opinion of "Big Oil".

    Let us refrain from baseless accusations and make points using facts and statistics. "


quote paul-

" Sorry, but I'm the one who's provided the references. There are a truck load of references at wikipedia
on the oil companies paying to support anti-global warming.

Paul "
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What does that have to do with your baseless assertion...

" My God my brothers & sisters, how much do they pay you people to say these things? "


I take it you mean "they" to be 'Big Oil' ?


" All of this talk / hate about obama this & that and taking over the world is based on half truths that nobody ever cares to validate based on eyeballing analysis. That's not science, and it's so easy for people get mislead that way."

Where are these "half truths"...lets discuss them and assign blame where it belongs.

I certainly don't want to be party to any blame projecting.

This would be a good time to apply 'the scientific method', by presenting your evidence to support your contention that people here are dishonest along with being paid agents of disinformation.


@Bill

Sanfran-Nan = Head wringer

Regards...

[raburgeson]

This whole thing is fake. Global warming has been exposed by hackers. Now the instant backup lie is climate change. They are conducting weather war on the people right now trying to condition the masses to except climate change. The storm in the Northwest USA right now is proof. Look at the storm. I downloaded the surrounding temperatures the moment they first forecast this storm. The lowest was a highland -13 in the Canadian mountains. I checked all the temperatures of the major islands in the North pacific too. There was no -30 to blow in from anywhere.

In the old overunity site at yahoo.com everything was explained on how they did it. Sulfur Dioxide lowers temperatures. Standing wave to steer hurricanes my butt. The patent number was given on the site for atmospheric lenses for HARRP and the patent number for using energy for changing the inertia of mass. The only place they could get -30 temperatures as a source is to steer the jet stream towards the Earth. As surely as they can steer a hurricane they can do that. Think about it.

The recorded surrounding temperatures are rar filed saved web pages. Here they are.

http://megaupload.com/?d=AHOBU6GC

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They used to try to convince people chemtrail spray cooled the Earth too, and they were going to pump water into the atmosphere with ships. Water vapor is clearly a green house gas. Now they are trying to convince the population that if the ice melts it will rip the earth apart.

4/3 pi R cubed, get the diameter mean of the Earth by Adding pole to pole and equator diameters and divide by 2. Then figure out the surface area with that formula. Don't worry about the expansion of water when it turns to ice. It's in the favor of government figures anyway. Figure out how many cubic miles of ice it would take to cover the earth with one inch of water. Also figure out this for the oceans, approximately 75% of the earths surface. You will notice you have absolutely nothing to worry about. The water will seek it's own level and the weight will be distributed. Rain storms can cause as much trouble. I'd like to point out Greenland is a small place by the way. Have fun people.

[blueplanet]

Solar cycles fluctuate too Paul.  Carbon and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere fluctuate too, just not at as dramatic rates.  Hey there is another interesting thing to throw in the graph along with solar cycle, greenhouse gases.

If my understanding is correct, the fluctuation is due to the  ozone hole and other depleted regions in the ozone layer. The depleted ozone layer let in more harmful radiations from the sun to penetrate into the atmosphere. The dark surface of the earth absorbs these solar radiations and turns these radiations into heat, thus heating up the earth core.

But right now, the greenhouse effects apparently have taken over. Those greenhouse gases also cause mercury pollution in China and Indonesia.

[blueplanet]

I reiterate, there is no point to engage in any intellectual discussion with the members of the R Paul cult. The leader of this cult has already declared that he opposes every bill supporting alternative energy investment or energy independency.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Energy_+_Oil.htm

http://seekingalpha.com/article/34879-ranking-the-candidates-alt-energy-support-congressman-ron-paul

By the way, according to my tea leaf readings, another goal of his cult is to stir up civil war in the US. I hope I am wrong.