how we are are "supposed" to defeat the illuminati.

[Cloxxki]

I do fear violence is the most effective way. But not like revolt or war, snipers.  Howeverm unless we somehow get a reliable memberlist, it would become a witch hunt. Better not look suspicious to anyone...
Central banks need to come into elected government's control again. No more help for broke little banks. Savings accounts are so 2007.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

my passed away father in-law was Illuminati and a retired minister of 30 years, he was one of the best people anyone could ever meet, he would give you a car if you needed it, he was also a Mason, he looked out for everyone that he knew.

I don't know why there is so much negativity on Illuminati, they are just ordinary folks, well most of them, some can be kooky but I think they suffer from mental illnesses but so do a lot of regular people.

in fact, since I know quite a few Illuminati I actually find it sort of insulting to hear people talk about it in a negative manner because you have not taken the time to meet some of them and make new friends.

you would actually change your mind once you realize they are not entirely bad people. don't believe all the rhetoric you hear about Illuminati, go find out for yourself, to much hype going around.

[jibbguy]

@ Onthecuttingedge2000 ; I am genuinely curious about your statements. You kinda make it sound like the Illuminati are a real and open club or organization, like the Masons or "Fraternal Order of Moose", or maybe more like a political Party or religion. I mean, do they actually admit to being a group, and use that name?

Lol, do they get monthly Newsletters and have to pay yearly Dues (just kidding).

Seriously, i wonder if you were characterizing your father in law as one because of the popular "urban legend" description (with him having a career in Government), or because there is something more behind it. 

Thanks.

[silverfish]

you are not supposed to defeat the illuminati, with money.
money is their favorite control-method.
and their kind mastered it thousands of years ago.
(the debt-based economic enslavement system that we live under today,
has been around since the babylonian civilization)



you are not supposed to defeat the illuminati, with physical conflict.
physical conflict has been their world-wide-war cash cow,
for as long as money has been their control method.



you are not supposed to defeat the illuminati, with laws.
they will simply twist the legal system.
and go on doing what they have been doing.



you are not supposed to defeat the illuminati, with politics.
politics is the industrial waste,
of societies combined drama-mills.
and is the biggest source of misery, of them all.



the illuminati can exist,
due to scarcity of resources.

so we must have technology and efficiency,
so there is no scarcity.



the illuminati can exist,
due to placing value on money,
instead of on resources and services.

so we must place value on resources and services,
and NEVER on money.



the illuminati can exist,
if the population surrenders their authority,
to someone other than them self.

so the population must NEVER surrender their authority,
to someone other than them self.

they may "agree" with what someone else says.
but they must NEVER make someone else their leader.
their decision maker.
their king.
their god-like figure, who is wearing the funny hat on his head.



but most important of all.
the main reason why we have found ourselves stuck,
on this vicious economic slavery plantation of hopelessness,
is because we believe we cannot break free from it.

that no matter what we do,
this environment will refuse to change.

because as long as we believe in it,
than it will stay like it is.
forever.
until we no longer believe in it !



so no matter what else we do,
we must BELIEVE that the world is a paradise.

because if most of the people of the world believed in paradise,
than paradise is what the world would become.

because manifestation is real.
and what you think about, is what you create.

Spot on! this is a great post. The Illuminati think they are illuminated -they are the sons and daughters of darkness. What does darkness fear? light, exposure. How do they maintain their power, which we give to them every day? through deception. They work in the shadows. What's the solution? Cast more light. More light on ourselves, more light on the global situation, more light on everything -and there's always more to 'uncover' - whether it be alternative technology, alternative society, alternative financial systems -alternative realities - or the unbelievable scams that these guys constantly perpetrate, right in our faces - we are creators, yet indebted and increasingly enslaved to, those that wish to degrade
this fair planet and turn it into their own personal fiefdom, convincing us that it's all for own good, while they suck our lifeblood like the parasites that they truly are.

WE are the illuminated ones - we just haven't recognised it yet.

[nitinnun]

cutting edge.

the amount of clumbsy,
trivial words in your posts,
greatly exceed the constructive potential of your posts.
by a ratio of at least 5 to 1.

in other words,
you need to say useful things more,
and talk out your ass less.



until you can improve the meaningfulness of your posts,
and manage to not harm my meaning in the process,
i have little interest in responding to you.

let alone give you information,
that makes it easier for you,
to find my current location in the world.