Solid State Orbo System

[gravityblock]

Reading these posts, I wonder why no one has this thing working OU yet.
If the toroidal coil is actually unaffected by the secondary load (output coil) then this should be easy.
Simply wind the toroid and place the magnet in the center and connect it to the meter to get the inductance. Then using the inductance, select a good capacitor value to get a resonate frequency in a reasonable range, and connect the capacitor either serial or parallel to the winding.

Apply a frequency generator and scope and tune for optimal resonance.
Place the resonating toroidal coil into the secondary and measure the inductance of the secondary coil and set it up to resonate at twice the toroidal frequency using the same method as the toroidal setup.

The entire unit is now tuned to the best possible output and if not OU then this setup probably cannot work as an OU device.

Good post Lumen!  Setting it up to resonate at twice the toroidal frequency is called parametric resonance, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_oscillator

This effect is different from regular resonance because it exhibits the instability phenomenon.  Parametric excitation differs from forcing since the action appears as a time varying modification on a system parameter.  If capacitance changes twice per one period of oscillation then the resonance can also be brought into parametric oscillation.

If a capacitor is charged until its voltage equals the sampled voltage of an incoming weak signal, and if the capacitor's capacitance is then reduced (say, by manually moving the plates further apart), then the voltage across the capacitor will increase. In this way, the voltage of the weak signal is amplified.

If the capacitor is a varicap diode, then the 'moving the plates' can be done simply by applying time-varying DC voltage to the varicap diode, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicap_diode

GB

[Bruce_TPU]

Reading these posts, I wonder why no one has this thing working OU yet.
If the toroidal coil is actually unaffected by the secondary load (output coil) then this should be easy.
Simply wind the toroid and place the magnet in the center and connect it to the meter to get the inductance. Then using the inductance, select a good capacitor value to get a resonate frequency in a reasonable range, and connect the capacitor either serial or parallel to the winding.

Apply a frequency generator and scope and tune for optimal resonance.
Place the resonating toroidal coil into the secondary and measure the inductance of the secondary coil and set it up to resonate at twice the toroidal frequency using the same method as the toroidal setup.

The entire unit is now tuned to the best possible output and if not OU then this setup probably cannot work as an OU device.

This is not how the toroid is affecting the pickup coils.  Please re read the thread.

The toroid is simply oscillating the magnetic flux from the magnets, not acting as a transformer.  The toroid need very little voltage, and a little current to do this.  On/Off   On/Off

Cheers,

Bruce

[gravityblock]

This is not how the toroid is affecting the pickup coils.  Please re read the thread.

The toroid is simply oscillating the magnetic flux from the magnets, not acting as a transformer.  The toroid need very little voltage, and a little current to do this.  On/Off   On/Off

Cheers,

Bruce

If the capacitance doesn't change twice per one period of oscillation then it won't be brought into parametric oscillation or parametric resonance and you won't achieve OU.  This will work in this setup because the magnetic interactions are decoupled from each other, but are coupled together parametrically and no BEMF will result.

This has nothing to do with transformers.  Lumen is right on the money with his post.

GB

[lumen]

This is not how the toroid is affecting the pickup coils.  Please re read the thread.

The toroid is simply oscillating the magnetic flux from the magnets, not acting as a transformer.  The toroid need very little voltage, and a little current to do this.  On/Off   On/Off

Cheers,

Bruce

Bruce,
Please re-read your basic electronics handbook. Using a resonate circuit in the toroidal coil will require very little input since you only need to re-enforce the collapsing field.

This also eliminates any need to recover the BEMF, since it is already recovered in the resonate state.

AND because it is not working like a transformer, there should not be any coupling of load between the the two coils.

The secondary should resonate at twice the input because there is no coupling between the two coils and each half of the input wave will cause the same effect in the toroidal coil, so this will be occurring at twice the rate of the input.(once on the high side and again on the low side)

SO the pickup will see a magnetic flux at twice the input frequency of the toroidal coil, and if this is also a resonate circuit, it will have the highest gain at only one frequency.

So that is why it would already be the best it could get. I mean, why mess around with all the unknown values hoping to magically come across something that works?

[Bruce_TPU]

@ Lumens and Groundloop, and ALL

What I was referring to, was earlier in the thread when Alex attempted the very thing lumens suggests.  It is not as easy as you may think.  If I recall, Alex stated that the Resonant frequency continued to change, as it interacted with the pickup coil, etc.

I do not know that he did it exactly like you suggested, he could answer that, but it sounded very similar. 

I was at work when I hurridly read your post.  Sorry I misunderstood what you were wanting to say.  Now I think I do indeed understand. 

I do like the idea but am not yet at that point of tuning.

I worked twelve hours today, came home and was simply going to wire my Brooks coils in series.  Sounds simple, eh?  LOL  Not so.  They don't like series...at all!  So, began to wire them in parallel for now.  Will eventually tune each one to a resonant frequency, but that will come later.  I am a very methodical and thorough experimenter, because I want to understand every detail of what I find out as I go.

So, what happened when I wired them in parallel?  I have explained in a picture below.  I would earnestly love you to help explain the results to me.  Or somene here...