Magnet motor in Argentina

[Liberty]

liberty, I think we should already consider established that the rotor has magnets immovably attached to it. The picture we discussed shows three rotor magnets while in this new text by Torbay the rotor magnets are four. Torbay speaks of 8 magnets because he counts the four rotor magnets and the corresponding four magnets of the stator facing them. This is a peculiar way of explanation which was present still in Torbay?s first text which we were struggling to translate and discuss. There, in that previous text, Torbay was talking about 6 magnets ? three rotor magnets facing three stator magnets. And, based on this picture he wrote also equations with which he tried to explain where the driving net force comes from.

This part, as I said, I take as already established and it does not comprise the problem. The problem, as I see it is, what is the concrete mechanism of lifting and lowering the stator magnets? Also what are exactly these cuts in the magnets which Torbay mentions, that are hard to attain uniform?

Hi Omnibus,

To answer your question:
If you understand the version of the rotor as I explained it, the magnet cuts are easy.  Torbay cut an angle on the stator magnets.  The top of the magnet is the closest to the rotor to concentrate the magnetic force to run the motor.  The lower part of the magnet that faces the rotor is 'beveled back'.  This provides more room for the rotor to pass(avoiding coliding magnetic fields) with the repelling field creating less resistance and allowing the motor to spin.  It also creates the proper angle for the leading edge of the rotor to repel and lift the cradle arm magnet.

[Feb2006]

Thers no spring in the construction thers only a spring effect when the arm is lowerd
against the rotor magnet.

"AL ALCANZAR ESTA POSICION EL BRAZO ELEVADO ES LIBERADO Y BAJA POR EFECTO DE UN RESORTE MIENTRAS EL BRAZO INMEDIATO POSTERIOR ES ELEVADO"

When REACHING THIS POSITION The HIGH ARM IS RELEASED And LOW BY EFFECT OF MEANS WHILE The LATER IMMEDIATE ARM IS ELEVATED

The arm thats going downvards is pushed down by a ramp abowe it.
take a look att the picture


Sist. de descenso controlado =  downward controle system

Do you see it?

Its so simple.

[Omnibus]

I still don't understand how the device work.

cesarc, I?ll try to explain briefly, as I have understood it. The rotor has only three (let?s take the tree-magnet variant) adjacent magnets which face three of the otherwise many stator magnets. The three rotor magnets are repelled by the three stator magnets (the N poles of the rotor magnets are facing the N poles of the rotor magnets).

The main trick in the whole story is to have the fourth stator magnet (if you count the three stator magnets in the direction of rotor rotation) lifted, so that it won?t stand in the way of the motion of the rotor. The repulsive force of that fourth magnet is practically canceled by taking it away.

Now, that we have ensured conditions (due to lifting of the fourth magnet) for a net repulsive force, the rotor turns towards the gap where the missing magnet is. During that process of turning the motor, a mechanism starts lifting the fifth magnet while lowering appropriately the fourth (the repulsive force is more than sufficient to lift the fifth magnet). The fifth magnet is finally lifted and the three rotor magnets are again facing three stator magnets, this time facing stator magnets two, three and four.

From this moment on you can apply the same considerations, explained above, concerning three rotor magnets facing three stator magnets. The rotor will keep turning ...

As I have said several times, the main problem, now that we understand the principle, is, what the concrete mechanism of lifting and lowering the stator magnets is.

[Omnibus]

liberty, so because of this bevel some kind of a leading arm which protrudes ahead of the three rotor magnets somehow pushes and lifts the next magnet. And when the rotor magnets come again in place, facing the next corresponding stator magnets, that arm releases the lifted magnet and starts lifting a new one. Can you sketch this more concretely?

[Feb2006]

The fourth stator magnet is going down wile the fifth is going up.