Magnet motor in Argentina

[silverdragonrs]

i am responding to reply 113 i think... about the device being black listed........ if it was then wouldnt the inventors site also be removed?..... after all it does give the basics right there for anyone to finish (as you all are doing) blacklisting in this case doesn't make sense. (probably drudging up old news but its kinda hard to read this stuff and not want to respond (will control myself better in future   )

[cesarc]

After doing about 100 FEMM simulations and FORCE calculations on the rotor I have determined that the rotor has only ONE MAGNET and that magnet is a disc/ring magnet that is MAGNETIZED THROUGH ITS DIAMETER!

Like a speaker magnet?

[Omnibus]

Wow, that's cool stuff, tao. You've done a great job. What progam did you use to do that? Is it possible to show the individual details and their dimensions? Maybe this way we can start the concrete discussion of the details and come up together with the concrete designs and send it for machining, as jaybird's original idea was. And, yes, I think wood'll be a good first choice. 

I'm not so sure I agree with your rotor magnet concept, however. I know you've done simulations but I still think the original Torbay three(four)-magnet rotor variant is to be preferred. Seems it will make the motor more powerful. You may prove me wrong, though.

[silverdragonrs]

perhaps i have misread the following statement

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but for pushing (down) the magnet you need TWO Frep*cos(alpha) from alpha 45 or greater to alpha=0 (exactly in the circle).

No, powering of the magnet (pushing it down, as you put it) is spontaneous ? no energy is spent by the motor. It can occur under the action of gravity, for instance. Therefore, the conclusion you make is incorrect.

in reply 141

i think i read in the newspaper or website (someplace) that this device generated a spin even in the vacuum of space and could be used to power satalites and such. if that is the case then gravity would not be a factor anyplace in this device. or are they refering to the fact that it could be modified to work in space (lightweight springs added over the magnet to push it down again to replace the gravity factor)

i am sorry to bring up old posts i am just trying to understand the posts as i read them so as to "draw" an acurate picture in my mind as to how this device works.

also let me try and understand the physics of the magnet circle and rotor relationship here. ----

the rotor is atracted to the missing force in the circle of magnets wich is caused by the removal/raising of one magnet at a time. (raising caused by unknown force as of reply 141) (i have a theory on how this works but will save it untill i catch up to present replies for the sake of redundancy)
as the rotor turns the next magnet is being raised and the rotor continues in motion toward the now raised magnet.

i still do not understand the purpose of the plate on top...... it has been mentioned to "push" the magnet down but that would create friction and resistance in the rotor so that couldn't be right.... am i missing something?

well back to reading...

danny

[dutchy1966]

I am going to provide a complete visual communication with calculations I did in FEMM for magnetic analysis of the two rotor ideas. The 3/4 magnet rotor idea DOES work, but I am of the mind, RIGHT NOW, that the disc magnet magnetized through its diameter might be better.

Tao, would you be able to post your FEMM files that you did already on here. That way we/I can do some calculations too?

thanx!

Dutchy